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Patrick L. · 03-19-2015, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith True

A few years ago I worked on a 29 pickup that the owner had torqued the lug nuts on.He had gotten the specs from somebody on the old Fordbarn.He had tightened the nuts to 110 foot pounds.I said you must mean the axle nut,he said no,the lugs.I looked it up and sure enough I found the post advising him on the lug torque.I found out when I went to take the wheels off his truck.I twisted the first lug nut off with very little effort.Most were still tight,but they all had Mae-Wested.Almost all of them broke when I tried to remove them.Now we had to replace all the studs,and if we had to do that,we might as well go to cast drums.Other than that the brakes were in excellent shape.Rotating his tires that day turned into a $1000.job.

I remember that discussion/post ! Most here tried to correct what that one poster wrote, but, once the info is out there some will use it.

Mitch//pa · 03-19-2015, 08:41 AM

why dont you guys buy torque sticks.....

toms method works just fine..

Bruce Lancaster · 03-19-2015, 08:49 AM

That's the great thing about the internet! Look up your question, and you can choose from hundreds of different answers!
Try the bulletins, or for an anachoronistic question like this a later Ford manual, and you get, at most, one lousy answer. Books are such a rip off!

Tom Wesenberg · 03-19-2015, 10:06 AM

Don't overthink using a torque wrench. Common sense works for most nuts and bolts on the Model A. You must remember that just because a certain nut and bolt can take a given torque, it's not always wise to use that MAXIMUM torque, Carb ears and manifold ears are often broken by people using some torque they read about for that size stud and nut. I watched a guy snap his manifold ears before he reached the torque he had in mind.

Big hammer · 03-19-2015, 02:27 PM

So small hardware requires light torque
And large hardware requires heavier torque
Anything in between Common Sense :-)

mshmodela · 03-19-2015, 03:20 PM

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Well I inspected my wheels last fall and found 2 nuts were loose. Just test a few that were not and made them all the same with a plain crank/wrench.

Patrick L. · 03-19-2015, 04:37 PM

Whenever tightening anything with more than one fastener holding it together, consistency is more important than the tonnage.

Mitch//pa · 03-19-2015, 04:40 PM

always tighten any car lug nuts in a cross pattern

dumb person · 03-19-2015, 04:45 PM

Except on french cars with 3 stud hubs. Can't cross pattern them.

Mitch//pa · 03-19-2015, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dumb person

Except on french cars with 3 stud hubs. Can't cross pattern them.

i thought you were a dumb person

1931 flamingo · 03-19-2015, 05:57 PM

Come on guys, this isn't rocket science ! ! 2 pages on lug nuts??
me

CarlG · 03-19-2015, 06:23 PM

Now 3

Patrick L. · 03-19-2015, 06:57 PM

Some of these just take on a life of their own.

racer32 · 03-21-2015, 12:06 AM

hmmm...just so happens I got an ad in the paper with HF coupon for 9.95 torque wrenches. Might just have to go buy one or two.

03-19-2015, 08:41 AM	#22
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Torque wheels why dont you guys buy torque sticks..... toms method works just fine..

03-19-2015, 08:49 AM	#23
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Torque wheels That's the great thing about the internet! Look up your question, and you can choose from hundreds of different answers! Try the bulletins, or for an anachoronistic question like this a later Ford manual, and you get, at most, one lousy answer. Books are such a rip off!

03-19-2015, 10:06 AM	#24
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Torque wheels Don't overthink using a torque wrench. Common sense works for most nuts and bolts on the Model A. You must remember that just because a certain nut and bolt can take a given torque, it's not always wise to use that MAXIMUM torque, Carb ears and manifold ears are often broken by people using some torque they read about for that size stud and nut. I watched a guy snap his manifold ears before he reached the torque he had in mind.

03-19-2015, 02:27 PM	#25
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: Torque wheels So small hardware requires light torque And large hardware requires heavier torque Anything in between Common Sense :-)

03-19-2015, 03:20 PM	#26
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: Torque wheels Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Well I inspected my wheels last fall and found 2 nuts were loose. Just test a few that were not and made them all the same with a plain crank/wrench. __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

03-19-2015, 04:37 PM	#27
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Torque wheels Whenever tightening anything with more than one fastener holding it together, consistency is more important than the tonnage.

03-19-2015, 04:40 PM	#28
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Torque wheels always tighten any car lug nuts in a cross pattern

03-19-2015, 04:45 PM	#29
dumb person Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South pacific island Posts: 1,724	Re: Torque wheels Except on french cars with 3 stud hubs. Can't cross pattern them. __________________ <Link> This is how we roll<Link> "I'm Convinced that no one really reads posts anymore; they just fabricate what they think the post says then ramble on about red herrings."--Bob Outcasts rules of old cars #1 Fun is imperative, mainstream is overrated #2 If they think it is impossible, prove them wrong #3 If the science says it impossible you are not being creative enough. #4 No shame in recreating something you never had #5 If it were not for the law & physics you would be unstoppable

03-19-2015, 05:57 PM	#31
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Torque wheels Come on guys, this isn't rocket science ! ! 2 pages on lug nuts?? me

03-19-2015, 06:23 PM	#32
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: Torque wheels Now 3 __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

03-19-2015, 06:57 PM	#33
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Torque wheels Some of these just take on a life of their own.

03-21-2015, 12:06 AM	#34
racer32 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 149	Re: Torque wheels hmmm...just so happens I got an ad in the paper with HF coupon for 9.95 torque wrenches. Might just have to go buy one or two.