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ford35lh · 02-01-2022, 12:19 AM

Someone on the Early V8 forum suggested I inquire here.
He said that Layden Butler may have my answer.
The rim is 24" X 2 3/4 between the beads.
I'd appreciate any input anyone can give me.

thanks
lynn

29spcoupe · 02-01-2022, 07:40 AM

Looks like a split rim for Chevrolet.

rotorwrench · 02-01-2022, 11:34 AM

While the split rim was used on Ford Ts of the mid 20s, most that I have seen are 4-lug detachable style. With so many auto manufacturers around in the early years of the automobile, it may take a while to find any information on a five lug detachable plain rim. The AACA may have more folks with experience on other makes of early wood spoke cars. Some demountable rims were also bolted to steel wheel disks instead of wood spoke.

29spcoupe · 02-02-2022, 07:29 AM

The lug with the cut-out is very similar to Chevrolet. Possibly could be any GM.

Kurt in NJ · 02-02-2022, 12:10 PM

I have a hardware store catalog that shows sets of replacement wheels with 5 lug demountable wheels, to fit T and Chevrolet---

36mike · 02-02-2022, 08:32 PM

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Where are you measuring the 24"? At tire size area or outside diameter?
I don't think it is Chevy. I have an old wheel/rim catalog. I'll see what I can find.

Mike

36mike · 02-04-2022, 09:44 AM

My wheel and rim catalog from 1935 has a section of illustrations and features of demountable rims. Here is what I found:
Described as 32 X 4 with 5 lugs (one notched, in the right location)
Kelsey Hayes type 160, part number 92563
Fits Earl 1923-25 (I have never heard of an Earl)
Fits Willys 64 1923-24
Fits Gardner (partial) 1922-24

I hope this is helpful

Mike

rotorwrench · 02-04-2022, 06:59 PM

This link is to a photo of an Earl Model 40. The list above states 23 to 25 but I don't know if the Earl (formerly Briscoe) survived past 1923 but the photo shows a five lug split rim.
https://libwww.freelibrary.org/digital/item/46308

The Willys-Knight model 64 used a wheel cover that partially covered the rims so its hard to see whether they had the 5-lug but a person can tell they are split rims. Some Willys-Knight cars used 6-lug but they are likely larger and heavier than the model 64. Here is one.
https://www.prewarcar.com/312998-wil...ve-engine-1922

A lot of the Gardner cars used 6-lug but there are some smaller models that used the five lug that I could find on line like this link.
http://www.gardnermotorcars.com/imag...3-coupe-02.jpg

36mike · 02-06-2022, 10:10 AM

My catalog is categorized by rim manufacturer. There are illustrations of the latch, stem location, and lug type. A chart then gives sizes, lug count, and application for the style. It's pretty easy to use and I have used it to ID some rims in my pile of stuff.
I have some rims which I have not been able to find.
I'm happy to look for any that you might have.

Mike

02-01-2022, 07:40 AM	#2
29spcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Rhinebeck, NY Posts: 763	Re: Trying to ID this rim Looks like a split rim for Chevrolet.

02-01-2022, 11:34 AM	#3
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,529	Re: Trying to ID this rim While the split rim was used on Ford Ts of the mid 20s, most that I have seen are 4-lug detachable style. With so many auto manufacturers around in the early years of the automobile, it may take a while to find any information on a five lug detachable plain rim. The AACA may have more folks with experience on other makes of early wood spoke cars. Some demountable rims were also bolted to steel wheel disks instead of wood spoke.

02-02-2022, 07:29 AM	#4
29spcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Rhinebeck, NY Posts: 763	Re: Trying to ID this rim The lug with the cut-out is very similar to Chevrolet. Possibly could be any GM.

02-02-2022, 12:10 PM	#5
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,185	Re: Trying to ID this rim I have a hardware store catalog that shows sets of replacement wheels with 5 lug demountable wheels, to fit T and Chevrolet---

02-02-2022, 08:32 PM	#6
36mike Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 10	Re: Trying to ID this rim Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Where are you measuring the 24"? At tire size area or outside diameter? I don't think it is Chevy. I have an old wheel/rim catalog. I'll see what I can find. Mike

02-04-2022, 09:44 AM	#7
36mike Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 10	Re: Trying to ID this rim My wheel and rim catalog from 1935 has a section of illustrations and features of demountable rims. Here is what I found: Described as 32 X 4 with 5 lugs (one notched, in the right location) Kelsey Hayes type 160, part number 92563 Fits Earl 1923-25 (I have never heard of an Earl) Fits Willys 64 1923-24 Fits Gardner (partial) 1922-24 I hope this is helpful Mike

02-04-2022, 06:59 PM	#8
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,529	Re: Trying to ID this rim This link is to a photo of an Earl Model 40. The list above states 23 to 25 but I don't know if the Earl (formerly Briscoe) survived past 1923 but the photo shows a five lug split rim. https://libwww.freelibrary.org/digital/item/46308 The Willys-Knight model 64 used a wheel cover that partially covered the rims so its hard to see whether they had the 5-lug but a person can tell they are split rims. Some Willys-Knight cars used 6-lug but they are likely larger and heavier than the model 64. Here is one. https://www.prewarcar.com/312998-wil...ve-engine-1922 A lot of the Gardner cars used 6-lug but there are some smaller models that used the five lug that I could find on line like this link. http://www.gardnermotorcars.com/imag...3-coupe-02.jpg

02-06-2022, 10:10 AM	#9
36mike Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 10	Re: Trying to ID this rim My catalog is categorized by rim manufacturer. There are illustrations of the latch, stem location, and lug type. A chart then gives sizes, lug count, and application for the style. It's pretty easy to use and I have used it to ID some rims in my pile of stuff. I have some rims which I have not been able to find. I'm happy to look for any that you might have. Mike