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11-12-2013, 08:20 PM | #21 |
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Thanks Henry
Also wondering how you know when it's done it's job? I did notice it said to repeat the process |
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Another chelation agent are molases. There are pretty inexpensive and will not react with anu other metals. There are many videos in You Tube demonstrating how to use them and examples. The only downside compared to any Evaporust-like product is time. Depending on the amount of rust to be removed it could take weeks to fully complete the job. Please keepnus posted, Professor. ThanK you.
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11-12-2013, 08:23 PM | #23 |
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soak in white viniger then rinse!!
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I'm assuming that it works like Naval Jelly that I've used for years. You know it's done its job when the rust is gone. Inside the engine? Well, that's why I'm testing it on my water pumps. If the Evapo-rust one is clean in the morning then I'll know it takes 12 hours or less. The instructions on the container say 2-12 hours. After that rinse it off to see if the rust is all gone and if not soak it again.
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11-12-2013, 08:28 PM | #25 |
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Henry>>>I'm not sure what all of this discussion about radiators is. Mine is good.>>>
I think their concern here Henry, is that when the Evapo Rust or vinegar goes to work on cleaning your block, they might loosen chunky stuff up that'll clog up your good radiator. Jack E/NJ |
11-12-2013, 08:36 PM | #26 |
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11-12-2013, 08:47 PM | #27 | |
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11-12-2013, 08:50 PM | #28 | |
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Still, if I find something that will remove it from the pumps I'll probably go ahead and put it in the engine to clean it out, "just in case." I hate boiling over. Even just one more time will be too many.
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11-12-2013, 09:08 PM | #29 |
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Henry, I believe your major buildup is calcium with a rust tint. I don't recall you using distilled water in your system with the additive. Remember where you live is the remains (Salt Lake) of a giant prehistoric inland ocean and your ground water is rife with calcium/lime from all those little shell critters. Try some Limeaway on those pumps. If those deposits in the pump foam up then it is a calcium problem.
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11-12-2013, 09:29 PM | #30 |
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Didn't wait till morning. Just took a peek after just an hour and here's the result so far. Evapo-rust on the left, vinegar on the right.
Before treatment to compare: I'll check in another hour for any more changes.
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11-12-2013, 09:35 PM | #31 | |
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As far as I know, Lime-away is just an acid like vinegar, both of which should dissolve calcium. If I have both rust and calcium it may take both the Evapo-rust and vinegar to do the job. We'll see.
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11-12-2013, 10:09 PM | #32 |
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Well yes, limeaway is an acid like vinegar is an acid. Both are lower on the Ph scale but are two different animals. Limeaway is sulfamic acid which has a unique affinity to attack calcium. Vinegar....not so much. You might want to give it a try.
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11-12-2013, 10:30 PM | #33 |
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Hello Everyone, Even the outside of the left pump is looking better! Fascinating!
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11-13-2013, 10:01 AM | #34 |
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Interesting. After 12 hours no more changes by the Evapo-rust on the left but the vinegar is obviously eating away whatever warts were under the rust (not doing much for the rust itself). The "warts" actually seem to look a little worse with the Evapo-rust. I'll keep soaking and see what more happens.
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11-13-2013, 10:25 AM | #35 |
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This is a great thread, thanks for the updates, Professor. Prof. Henry, the Barn's very own "Mr. Wizard".
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11-13-2013, 12:40 PM | #37 |
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I use as a rust inhibiter Lath cutting fluid ,this is common in the Model A part of the hobby .Anty freeze is ok if you change it on the due date ,
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11-13-2013, 12:57 PM | #38 |
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I have used wood bleach (oxalic acid that used to be Prestone radiator flush, and washing soda, not baking soda to neutralize). I ran my model A for a summer with water wetter and plain water. Big mistake ,huge rust in the block.
Here is a long complicated post about this cleaner.http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...ner-flush.html 9 dry oz of Oxalic Acid (DAP Wood Bleach) 2 dry oz of Sodium Carbonate (Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda) Mix acid with water in a bucket,pour in and idle untill up to temperature and leave in for a couple of hours. Neutralize with washing soda. This took all the rust out of my block and it does not attack any good metal. This stuff really works. Here is a thread on HAMB. Doesn't even harm paint. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ht=oxalic+acid John |
11-13-2013, 01:36 PM | #39 |
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Photos...I think lime AND rust! I would do evapo--drain--acid (Lime away, vinegar)--rinse carefully--dump the evapo back in to get the rust under the departed lime. Then save the 5 gallons of evapo and dump all my spare parts into it...
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It is the same stuff as Evaporust but is concentrated and less than half price. I bought a gallon of it. I soaked a Model A block with Evaporust. I used Evaporust to free the rusted tight glove box hinge on my 36 Woodie. |
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