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danliveshere · 05-06-2023, 04:56 AM

Hi guys. I’ve had this piece for quite a while. Not sure if it’s for water injection or maybe an old charcoal gas maker? Any ideas?

rotorwrench · 05-06-2023, 08:18 AM

No telling how many aftermarket items were sold that were touted to improve economy or performance. The valve has Moisture Auto Adjustment on it so it was likely some form of water vaporizer set up. I doubt that that would do an internal combustion engine much good.

Jack E/NJ · 05-06-2023, 08:41 AM

>>I’ve had this piece for quite a while.>>> for water injection>>>

I think you should try it out. Then give us a before and after performance report. 8^)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engine)

petehoovie · 05-06-2023, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by danliveshere

Hi guys. I’ve had this piece for quite a while. Not sure if it’s for water injection or maybe an old charcoal gas maker? Any ideas?

I like it !!!

Zeke3 · 05-06-2023, 10:10 AM

I wonder if there is a reservoir that went with that, that little tank wouldn’t hold very much fluid. It should help prevent carbon deposits in the engine at least.

jimvette59 · 05-06-2023, 10:27 AM

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Vacuum operated injector, of what ?

38bill · 05-06-2023, 03:13 PM

That's cool. I'd plug it and mount it just to see how many people ask about it.

ford38v8 · 05-06-2023, 03:15 PM

In the early days of automotive technology, this accessory and others like it played a minor role in removing and preventing that nasty green buildup that some men tend to accumulate in thier wallets. Modern technology is capable of performing that task with an efficiency unimaginable back then.

flatford8 · 05-06-2023, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 38bill

That's cool. I'd plug it and mount it just to see how many people ask about it.

EXACTLY!!.......and I’d think up some really scientific, important sounding name for it.....Just to see how many “bites” I’d get!.....I’m glad we share a sense of humor!........Mark

petehoovie · 05-06-2023, 05:26 PM

I want it!!! It's the part I need for my Interocitor...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gGY4FgUViI

Jack E/NJ · 05-06-2023, 05:41 PM

Might shine up nice with Brasso or NevrDull. If it was mine, I'd install it. So I want one too. 8^)

Ian NZ · 05-06-2023, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by danliveshere

Hi guys. I’ve had this piece for quite a while. Not sure if it’s for water injection or maybe an old charcoal gas maker? Any ideas?

That System that Danliveshere has is a Hydro -Vent P.V.C. system for a Ford V8 engine. I have come across several ones in this my photo fitted to Ford V8 army engines. A pipe is connected to them from the V8 manifold to the unit. I have not seen one of Dans model yet.

Model51 · 05-06-2023, 07:33 PM

Here's a link to a Youtube video of another snake oil device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag
If you haven't seen this before, I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

petehoovie · 05-06-2023, 08:11 PM

New and improved model in operation...

38 coupe · 05-06-2023, 08:36 PM

I wonder what state of mind someone had to be in to think that one up?

ford38v8 · 05-06-2023, 11:08 PM

What a beautiful piece of machinery! I do wonder, though, about the optimum range of useful RPMs this model is capable of, given its inherently tremendous vibration level.

deuce_roadster · 05-06-2023, 11:43 PM

Would go well with the Turboencabulator.

danliveshere · 05-07-2023, 03:20 AM

Guys I have made Hydrogen fuel cells before, and the last one I had on my 6 cylinder diesel truck, certainly seemed to increase the fuel economy ( about 10%,) but it also seemed to have more power. I’ll clean this up, pull apart and see if I can use it for this purpose one day.

tubman · 05-07-2023, 07:57 AM

Remember, the Germans used their MW50 Methanol/Water injection on their piston-engined fighters in WWII to great effect. It says it "sprayed into the supercharger". It looks like it has to be used with one of those J.C. Whitney "Mini-superchargers" that fit under the carburetor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MW_50.

Something like this, but for a 94/97 and two little free-spinning propellors.

rotorwrench · 05-07-2023, 10:53 AM

The Luftwaffe wasn't the only air force to use water/alcohol to prevent detonation. The allied forces did as well. When the Merlin was throttled into war emergency power setting, they needed the anti-detonation injection of alcohol mix to cool them down. Those 2-stage superchargers put a hell of a strain on the engines.

05-06-2023, 08:18 AM	#2
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,437	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? No telling how many aftermarket items were sold that were touted to improve economy or performance. The valve has Moisture Auto Adjustment on it so it was likely some form of water vaporizer set up. I doubt that that would do an internal combustion engine much good.

05-06-2023, 08:41 AM	#3
Jack E/NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,173	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? >>I’ve had this piece for quite a while.>>> for water injection>>> I think you should try it out. Then give us a before and after performance report. 8^) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engine)

05-06-2023, 10:10 AM	#5
Zeke3 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,407	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? I wonder if there is a reservoir that went with that, that little tank wouldn’t hold very much fluid. It should help prevent carbon deposits in the engine at least.

05-06-2023, 10:27 AM	#6
jimvette59 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Perry OH Posts: 1,330	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Vacuum operated injector, of what ?

05-06-2023, 03:13 PM	#7
38bill Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,166	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? That's cool. I'd plug it and mount it just to see how many people ask about it.

05-06-2023, 03:15 PM	#8
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,646	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? In the early days of automotive technology, this accessory and others like it played a minor role in removing and preventing that nasty green buildup that some men tend to accumulate in thier wallets. Modern technology is capable of performing that task with an efficiency unimaginable back then. __________________ Alan

05-06-2023, 05:26 PM	#10
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,156	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? I want it!!! It's the part I need for my Interocitor... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gGY4FgUViI __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 05-06-2023 at 05:58 PM.

05-06-2023, 05:41 PM	#11
Jack E/NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,173	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? Might shine up nice with Brasso or NevrDull. If it was mine, I'd install it. So I want one too. 8^)

05-06-2023, 07:33 PM	#13
Model51 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fairfax Station, VA Posts: 529	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? Here's a link to a Youtube video of another snake oil device. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag If you haven't seen this before, I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

05-06-2023, 08:11 PM	#14
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,156	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? New and improved model in operation... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

05-06-2023, 08:36 PM	#15
38 coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Texas Posts: 1,631	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? I wonder what state of mind someone had to be in to think that one up?

05-06-2023, 11:08 PM	#16
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,646	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? What a beautiful piece of machinery! I do wonder, though, about the optimum range of useful RPMs this model is capable of, given its inherently tremendous vibration level. __________________ Alan

05-06-2023, 11:43 PM	#17
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? Would go well with the Turboencabulator.

05-07-2023, 03:20 AM	#18
danliveshere Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cairns , Australia Posts: 746	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? Guys I have made Hydrogen fuel cells before, and the last one I had on my 6 cylinder diesel truck, certainly seemed to increase the fuel economy ( about 10%,) but it also seemed to have more power. I’ll clean this up, pull apart and see if I can use it for this purpose one day.

05-07-2023, 10:53 AM	#20
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,437	Re: Any ideas on this piece that fits under the carb? The Luftwaffe wasn't the only air force to use water/alcohol to prevent detonation. The allied forces did as well. When the Merlin was throttled into war emergency power setting, they needed the anti-detonation injection of alcohol mix to cool them down. Those 2-stage superchargers put a hell of a strain on the engines.