Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-21-2023, 05:40 PM   #1
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Violent shake.

So to start with I have a 1950 Ford Custom. I have replaced the clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing and hub. I had the flywheel resurfaced. It also has new u joints.
From a dead stop the car shakes hard. It smoothes out after the car gets moving. It's only on a start. I do hear a mechinacal sound some times when at speed. Any ideas?
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 05:46 PM   #2
Seth Swoboda
Senior Member
 
Seth Swoboda's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 3,795
Default Re: Violent shake.

Have you checked all of your steering coponents for wear or anything that is loose? Drag link, tie rod ends, king pins?
Seth Swoboda is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 12-21-2023, 06:04 PM   #3
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Re: Violent shake.

King pins have been changed. No loose steering parts either.
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 06:08 PM   #4
tubman
Senior Member
 
tubman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys
Posts: 10,320
Default Re: Violent shake.

Check the motor mounts (and the transmission mount while you're at it).
tubman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 06:11 PM   #5
Don T
Member
 
Don T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Alberta Canada
Posts: 93
Default Re: Violent shake.

Are you talking about clutch chatter or is it after the clutch is fully released?
Don T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 06:13 PM   #6
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Re: Violent shake.

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
I will check the motor mounts.
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 06:15 PM   #7
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Re: Violent shake.

It happens just as the clutch engages the flywheel.
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 06:23 PM   #8
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Re: Violent shake.

I was just thinking us it possible pinion angle could cause this?
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 06:25 PM   #9
OhioRick
Senior Member
 
OhioRick's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 175
Default Re: Violent shake.

Here’s an option.
Engine steady rods.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0291.jpg (9.3 KB, 41 views)
OhioRick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 06:32 PM   #10
19Fordy
Senior Member
 
19Fordy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Coral Springs FL
Posts: 10,950
Default Re: Violent shake.

Those steady rods won't fit a 1950 Ford.
19Fordy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 07:12 PM   #11
Ggmac
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Lake worth Florida
Posts: 1,101
Default Re: Violent shake.

Broken rear leaf on spring pack , loose or broken shackles, loose u bolts to axle housing .
Of course youve already checked the obvious clutch possibles . Trans mount and motor mounts or oil on the disc or a bad pressure plate .
Ggmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 07:40 PM   #12
Tony, NY
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Capital of Corruption , NY
Posts: 811
Default Re: Violent shake.

Did you have the shake prior to doing all this work?
Tony, NY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 08:21 PM   #13
1939mars
Senior Member
 
1939mars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 127
Default Re: Violent shake.

Is there any play in the clutch pedal when it is all the way up? If not the clutch may not be fully engaging.
1939mars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 08:35 PM   #14
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Re: Violent shake.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony, NY View Post
Did you have the shake prior to doing all this work?
Yes the problem was the reason for changing the clutch parts. Turns out the clutch was not the problem.
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 08:38 PM   #15
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Re: Violent shake.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1939mars View Post
Is there any play in the clutch pedal when it is all the way up? If not the clutch may not be fully engaging.
The free play is set to 1 1/4.
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 08:57 PM   #16
Lanny
Senior Member
 
Lanny's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mn
Posts: 2,411
Default Re: Violent shake.

Terry, I read where you installed most all the New clutch parts,
but curious, did you install a New Pilot bearing/bushing too ?
A wore out pilot bearing/bushing will cause one heck of a shake.




.
__________________
If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.
But if daddy ain't happy...RUN
Lanny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 09:02 PM   #17
cmbrucew
Senior Member
 
cmbrucew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: North of sandy ago, CA.
Posts: 2,064
Default Re: Violent shake.

I had the same issues in 1960 on my 50 Ford. I had the flywheel resurfaced. Should have had it balanced at the same time.
Bruce
__________________
Works good
Lasts long time
cmbrucew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2023, 09:12 PM   #18
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Re: Violent shake.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny View Post
Terry, I read where you installed most all the New clutch parts,
but curious, did you install a New Pilot bearing/bushing too ?
A wore out pilot bearing/bushing will cause one heck of a shake.




.
Yes I had a new pilot bearing installed by the machine shop.
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2023, 09:50 AM   #19
Seth Swoboda
Senior Member
 
Seth Swoboda's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 3,795
Default Re: Violent shake.

Tell us about the engine. Is it newly rebuilt or an older engine? Someone mentioned an oil soaked clutch and yes, that will cause a violent chatter when you let the clutch out. What is the surface of the flywheel like? Does it have hot spots?
Seth Swoboda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2023, 10:08 AM   #20
Terry Wilkerson
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 44
Default Re: Violent shake.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seth Swoboda View Post
Tell us about the engine. Is it newly rebuilt or an older engine? Someone mentioned an oil soaked clutch and yes, that will cause a violent chatter when you let the clutch out. What is the surface of the flywheel like? Does it have hot spots?
I don't know the history of the engine. It does run pretty good. Starts with no hesitation. The clutch wasn't oil soaked. I had the flywheel resurfaced.
Earlier in this thread I mentioned pinion angle. Do you think that could cause a shake?
Terry Wilkerson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:12 PM.