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Y-Blockhead · 01-01-2015, 07:44 PM

I'm Confused. Doesn't take much.

I have been looking at pictures of 1930 Model A Fordor Sedans today and from what I understand a 170 is a Deluxe Fordor and a 155 is a Town Sedan. And the 170 is referred to as a two window and the Town Sedan referred to as a three window. Am I close so far?

Now the confusion. My registration states under model; 170. But as you can see from the photo it clearly has three windows??

Sooo? What do you think? Registration messed up? Engine Numbers? Body changed in the last 84 years?

Just want to know what to call it, Deluxe or Town Sedan?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

1930artdeco · 01-01-2015, 08:45 PM

I believe that the delux is what we would call a 'blindback' where the quarter window is missing (hence the two window). Whereas the TownSedan has three windows hence the name. I think someone goofed when they registered the car years ago.

Mike

Roadster62 · 01-01-2015, 08:56 PM

My guess is someone saw the cowl lights and thought it was a "Deluxe" years ago. Nice car. Bob

Aerocraft · 01-01-2015, 09:19 PM

Your Fordor is a Briggs built car as defined by the straight upper edge of both door windows. If the car has a fold down arm rest in the center of the rear seat and a dome light over the back window, it is defined as a 155D Town Sedan. Of course, the TS also had cowl lights. There should also be a pin stripe on both sides of the rear face of the fuel tank on either side of the dash, the garnish moldings should be wood grained, and both front and rear floors should have a light brown carpet.

Gar Williams

Y-Blockhead · 01-01-2015, 09:35 PM

Thanks Guys for helping the Newbie. Yes it has all the above except the pin stripping on the fuel tank (possible repaint).

So what I have is a 155D Town Sedan that the DMV thinks is a Deluxe...

Works for me, thanks for straightening that out.

CarlG · 01-01-2015, 10:39 PM

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With all the confusion over exactly what you have, I think the best course of action would be to just send it to me. Then you can quit fretting about it.

Purdy Swoft · 01-01-2015, 11:08 PM

It looks like a nice one. I miss the august 1930 Briggs town sedan that I had.

DJ S · 01-01-2015, 11:26 PM

Still looking to purchase a fordor sometime in the near future

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Anteek29 · 01-01-2015, 11:50 PM

What a sweet A you have...love the green exterior and those plush, comfy-looking seats!

Chuck Sea/Tac · 01-02-2015, 12:24 AM

You should buy Henry's Lady. Then you'll have pictures and described differences of all the models throughout production!

Marco Tahtaras · 01-02-2015, 12:58 AM

I don't think you received a reply specific to your question. Yes, everything shown indicates you have a 155-D as you suspected. As far as the CA DMV goes, they have no clue and DID NOT choose that identification for your title. It's most likely that a previous owner chose that when creating a NEW title for a car that was not on the books.

Y-Blockhead · 01-02-2015, 02:24 AM

Thanks for all the comments and compliments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Sea/Tac

You should buy Henry's Lady. Then you'll have pictures and described differences of all the models throughout production!

Chuck, Haha, that's what brought up my question in the first place, looking at pictures. I going "wait a minute, the book says this and my registration says???"

I do have 'Henry's Lady', but today I was reading 'Ford Model A, Collector's Originality Guide' that got me to thinking.

You'll notice that in 'Henry's Lady' it kind of skips over the 1930 models in the sedan section, going from1929 on page 218 to 1931 on page 219.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Tahtaras

I don't think you received a reply specific to your question. Yes, everything shown indicates you have a 155-D as you suspected. As far as the CA DMV goes, they have no clue and DID NOT choose that identification for your title. It's most likely that a previous owner chose that when creating a NEW title for a car that was not on the books.

Marco that makes sense and your probably correct. But I'm not going to be the one to clue them in. I just wanted to know what I had so I could answer correctly when asked about the car and not look clueless myself, haha.

Thanks again for everyone help. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

mshmodela · 01-02-2015, 08:40 AM

Y-Block,

Nice to see a side view of your A, very nice..

marty in Ohio · 01-02-2015, 09:12 AM

Y-Blockhead,
Nice town sedan!! It looks remarkably like mine. We have a group of model A'ers in town who get together once a month for breakfast and last month we were discussing cars and titles. One of our guys has a title with one to many digits and one has one too few. The consences was that trying to correct titles only opens a "can of worms." The state doesn't know what we have nor do they care.
Marty

1931 flamingo · 01-02-2015, 10:13 AM

It's registered. I wouldn't worry about what the reg says. You now know what model it is and if you decide to sell you're "golden". JMO
By the way, it is sweet looking.

Paul in CT

Skeezixx · 01-02-2015, 12:05 PM

When I had my title transferred the previous one listed the model as a "Roadster" which it is. The new title lists it as a "two door" (why bother to read the paperwork when you have a picture with the application).

So long as I was issued my license plate I wasn't going to make waves with the DMV.

01-01-2015, 07:44 PM	#1
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans I'm Confused. Doesn't take much. I have been looking at pictures of 1930 Model A Fordor Sedans today and from what I understand a 170 is a Deluxe Fordor and a 155 is a Town Sedan. And the 170 is referred to as a two window and the Town Sedan referred to as a three window. Am I close so far? Now the confusion. My registration states under model; 170. But as you can see from the photo it clearly has three windows?? Sooo? What do you think? Registration messed up? Engine Numbers? Body changed in the last 84 years? Just want to know what to call it, Deluxe or Town Sedan? Thanks in advance for your responses.

01-01-2015, 08:45 PM	#2
1930artdeco Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lynden, Wa Posts: 3,552	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans I believe that the delux is what we would call a 'blindback' where the quarter window is missing (hence the two window). Whereas the TownSedan has three windows hence the name. I think someone goofed when they registered the car years ago. Mike __________________ 1930 TownSedan (Briggs) 1957 Country Sedan

01-01-2015, 08:56 PM	#3
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,441	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans My guess is someone saw the cowl lights and thought it was a "Deluxe" years ago. Nice car. Bob __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.

01-01-2015, 09:19 PM	#4
Aerocraft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 1,387	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans Your Fordor is a Briggs built car as defined by the straight upper edge of both door windows. If the car has a fold down arm rest in the center of the rear seat and a dome light over the back window, it is defined as a 155D Town Sedan. Of course, the TS also had cowl lights. There should also be a pin stripe on both sides of the rear face of the fuel tank on either side of the dash, the garnish moldings should be wood grained, and both front and rear floors should have a light brown carpet. Gar Williams

01-01-2015, 09:35 PM	#5
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans Thanks Guys for helping the Newbie. Yes it has all the above except the pin stripping on the fuel tank (possible repaint). So what I have is a 155D Town Sedan that the DMV thinks is a Deluxe... Works for me, thanks for straightening that out.

01-01-2015, 10:39 PM	#6
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) With all the confusion over exactly what you have, I think the best course of action would be to just send it to me. Then you can quit fretting about it. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

01-01-2015, 11:08 PM	#7
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans It looks like a nice one. I miss the august 1930 Briggs town sedan that I had.

01-01-2015, 11:26 PM	#8
DJ S Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Southwick, MA Posts: 590	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans Still looking to purchase a fordor sometime in the near future .

01-01-2015, 11:50 PM	#9
Anteek29 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Santa Maria, CA Posts: 985	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans What a sweet A you have...love the green exterior and those plush, comfy-looking seats!

01-02-2015, 12:24 AM	#10
Chuck Sea/Tac Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Between Seattle & Tacoma Posts: 2,354	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans You should buy Henry's Lady. Then you'll have pictures and described differences of all the models throughout production!

01-02-2015, 12:58 AM	#11
Marco Tahtaras Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,099	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans I don't think you received a reply specific to your question. Yes, everything shown indicates you have a 155-D as you suspected. As far as the CA DMV goes, they have no clue and DID NOT choose that identification for your title. It's most likely that a previous owner chose that when creating a NEW title for a car that was not on the books. __________________ http://www.abarnyard.com/

01-02-2015, 08:40 AM	#13
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans Y-Block, Nice to see a side view of your A, very nice.. __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

01-02-2015, 09:12 AM	#14
marty in Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Elyria, Ohio Posts: 756	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans Y-Blockhead, Nice town sedan!! It looks remarkably like mine. We have a group of model A'ers in town who get together once a month for breakfast and last month we were discussing cars and titles. One of our guys has a title with one to many digits and one has one too few. The consences was that trying to correct titles only opens a "can of worms." The state doesn't know what we have nor do they care. Marty

01-02-2015, 10:13 AM	#15
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans It's registered. I wouldn't worry about what the reg says. You now know what model it is and if you decide to sell you're "golden". JMO By the way, it is sweet looking. Paul in CT

01-02-2015, 12:05 PM	#16
Skeezixx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 426	Re: Different models of 1930 Fordor Sedans When I had my title transferred the previous one listed the model as a "Roadster" which it is. The new title lists it as a "two door" (why bother to read the paperwork when you have a picture with the application). So long as I was issued my license plate I wasn't going to make waves with the DMV.