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gmc1941 · 04-07-2011, 06:04 PM

My problem is-I want to replace the door glass on my pickup. The glass has a metal frame and had been set up for power windows which didn't operate. Since the door panels have no crank and only door switchs I thought it would be easier just to replace the actuators with modern ones. Has anybody replace the glass and frame with just glass? Need some thoughts. The cab is I think 46 and the front 40. Mentally handy capped or just dumb.

mj40's · 04-07-2011, 09:16 PM

My 46 cab has just the glass. I replaced one a few months back and compared the pattern with a side glass with the surround frame. I placed the pattern glass on the frame and it was exactly the same. Building another 40 using the 46 cab and plan on running the same style glass without metal surround. Just looks cleaner to me.

gmc1941 · 04-08-2011, 04:57 PM

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Chisel · 04-08-2011, 06:39 PM

GMC1941 nice truck and excellant choice in canine!!! [ They are the clowns of the dog world ]

tiquer · 04-09-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mj40's

My 46 cab has just the glass. I replaced one a few months back and compared the pattern with a side glass with the surround frame. I placed the pattern glass on the frame and it was exactly the same. Building another 40 using the 46 cab and plan on running the same style glass without metal surround. Just looks cleaner to me.

Yes I am running just glass in my 46 also. Could not find metal trim in usable shape.

Karl Wescott · 04-09-2011, 11:32 AM

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If you go without the frame (imho looks better for a street rod) consider spending the extra dollars for tempered glass. I suspect the reason for the frame is to help prevent the cracking that can easily happen with safety plate when the door is slammed with the window part open, or some neophyte uses the glass to close the door.

Bob G/Spanaway · 05-18-2014, 01:20 PM

Might be a dumb question but here goes....is the tempered glass stronger?
Is that the reason to use it?
My '40 PU has a cracked driver's door glass since about a week since the resto was finished.

41LjH · 05-18-2014, 06:21 PM

This is more than you want to know, but here goes.
1940 Pickup had no frame around the glass. That was changed in 1941 and retained going forward. IMHO this was done because of broken windows due to slamming the doors. To replace a "framed" window glass remove the fasteners at the lower edges and gently ply off the bottom metal runner.
If you want to go frame-less buy 1940 window channels. Frame-less glass is not as thick as the frame and the channel that go in the door and around the sealing surface have a narrow gap to accommodate the thinner sealing face of the frame-less window.
Tempered glass is stronger.
Good luck !

scooder · 05-19-2014, 04:42 AM

I thought the frames came about in the war years, most unrestored 42 pickups I've seen have no frames, mine had no frames, and appeared never to have had them. Most war time and after one's I've seen had the frames. The tempered (hardened) glass is much much stronger. And Much harder to break, the stock laminated stuff will often crack just to spite you. Tempered has to be cut before tempering. Afterwards it's to hard. Normally near 50-75% more expensive.
I actually like the frames, looks more trucky.
Martin.

04-07-2011, 06:04 PM	#1
gmc1941 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Palatine, Il Posts: 486	1946 Ford PU Door Glass My problem is-I want to replace the door glass on my pickup. The glass has a metal frame and had been set up for power windows which didn't operate. Since the door panels have no crank and only door switchs I thought it would be easier just to replace the actuators with modern ones. Has anybody replace the glass and frame with just glass? Need some thoughts. The cab is I think 46 and the front 40. Mentally handy capped or just dumb. __________________ 1939 Fordor Deluxe 1939 Ford Coupe Std 1940 Ford pickup Nothing in life is to be feared; it is only to be understood. Last edited by gmc1941; 04-09-2011 at 01:53 PM. Reason: Photo

04-07-2011, 09:16 PM	#2
mj40's Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Boi Angeles, Idaho Posts: 62	Re: 1946 Ford PU Door Glass My 46 cab has just the glass. I replaced one a few months back and compared the pattern with a side glass with the surround frame. I placed the pattern glass on the frame and it was exactly the same. Building another 40 using the 46 cab and plan on running the same style glass without metal surround. Just looks cleaner to me.

04-08-2011, 04:57 PM	#3
gmc1941 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Palatine, Il Posts: 486	Re: 1946 Ford PU Door Glass Btt __________________ 1939 Fordor Deluxe 1939 Ford Coupe Std 1940 Ford pickup Nothing in life is to be feared; it is only to be understood.

04-08-2011, 06:39 PM	#4
Chisel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 232	Re: 1946 Ford PU Door Glass GMC1941 nice truck and excellant choice in canine!!! [ They are the clowns of the dog world ]

04-09-2011, 11:32 AM	#6
Karl Wescott Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,289	Re: 1946 Ford PU Door Glass Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) If you go without the frame (imho looks better for a street rod) consider spending the extra dollars for tempered glass. I suspect the reason for the frame is to help prevent the cracking that can easily happen with safety plate when the door is slammed with the window part open, or some neophyte uses the glass to close the door.

05-18-2014, 01:20 PM	#7
Bob G/Spanaway Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Spanaway, Washington Posts: 344	Re: 1946 Ford PU Door Glass Might be a dumb question but here goes....is the tempered glass stronger? Is that the reason to use it? My '40 PU has a cracked driver's door glass since about a week since the resto was finished.

05-18-2014, 06:21 PM	#8
41LjH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: NW North Carolina Posts: 461	Re: 1946 Ford PU Door Glass This is more than you want to know, but here goes. 1940 Pickup had no frame around the glass. That was changed in 1941 and retained going forward. IMHO this was done because of broken windows due to slamming the doors. To replace a "framed" window glass remove the fasteners at the lower edges and gently ply off the bottom metal runner. If you want to go frame-less buy 1940 window channels. Frame-less glass is not as thick as the frame and the channel that go in the door and around the sealing surface have a narrow gap to accommodate the thinner sealing face of the frame-less window. Tempered glass is stronger. Good luck ! __________________ 3 pedals, 3 gears, no valve-covers.. *Now THAT* is a hot rod** !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmwwB34vxJE

05-19-2014, 04:42 AM	#9
scooder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,593	Re: 1946 Ford PU Door Glass I thought the frames came about in the war years, most unrestored 42 pickups I've seen have no frames, mine had no frames, and appeared never to have had them. Most war time and after one's I've seen had the frames. The tempered (hardened) glass is much much stronger. And Much harder to break, the stock laminated stuff will often crack just to spite you. Tempered has to be cut before tempering. Afterwards it's to hard. Normally near 50-75% more expensive. I actually like the frames, looks more trucky. Martin.