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smitty city · 07-28-2014, 03:46 PM

I am restoring a 48 flat bed, and want to put the stake pockets back in with the original style rivets. how do I buck the rivets on the inside of the pockets? how did Ford do it?
thanks, mike smith

oldford2 · 07-28-2014, 04:34 PM

Just a guess but if you want to retain the rivet appearance, why not modify the head of a carriage bolt to rivet size/shape and the square under the head so it will "bite" in the hole for tightening.
John

49fordv8f4 · 07-28-2014, 06:22 PM

When I replaced the back panel on my '49 flatbed, I installed the "bumpers" with rivets I made from 1/4" grade 8 bolts. I turned the head to look like a rivet and used grade 8 nuts on the inside with 640 Loctite on the threads.
Mark

Mike B · 07-28-2014, 06:37 PM

The rivets I've taken out of my older trucks, appear to have been Hot rivets, but no idea on the process...I was going to put rivets in the bed of this '42 I'm working on, but geesh, the tool required was near 800 (might be off there...but what ever the cost, not for me) bucks as I recall, that would do 3/16th-3/8th steel rivets.

I'm sure there is "some place" that can do them, but no idea where to look for it.

ReggieK · 07-28-2014, 08:56 PM

I don't know how Ford did it but, I have used a coupling nut, and a grade 8 bolt and formed the radius in the head of the bolt to fit the head of the rivet, and used it for a buck bar. Then I used an air hammer with the bar in it to form the head on the other end of the rivet. The .401 end rivet tools are available from several sources for different size rivets. Mac's has them. They also have the bucking bar I was referring to.
Reggie

Bruce/CT · 07-28-2014, 10:37 PM

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Try Roy Nacewicz at http://www.fordscript.com or Big Flats rivets at www.bigflatsrivets.com for the proper rivets and installing technique
Good luck as this is not a fun job.
Bruce/CT

smitty city · 07-30-2014, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce/CT

Try Roy Nacewicz at http://www.fordscript.com or Big Flats rivets at www.bigflatsrivets.com for the proper rivets and installing technique
Good luck as this is not a fun job.
Bruce/CT

i called both, and Roy helped out quite a bit, thanks for the info

Bruce/CT · 07-30-2014, 08:44 PM

Smiity....You are most welcome
Just spoke to Roy today. He is a wealth of knowledge on these Fords and very willing to share it. Great guy and great products. He is one of my go-to guys.
Bruce/CT

Rascal · 07-30-2014, 08:56 PM

The carriage bolt method is fine , but if you have the time & patience,
original rivets are the ticket.

VeryTangled · 07-30-2014, 09:09 PM

http://bigflatsrivet.com/

07-28-2014, 03:46 PM	#1
smitty city Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: north of dayton, ohio Posts: 45	flat bed rivets I am restoring a 48 flat bed, and want to put the stake pockets back in with the original style rivets. how do I buck the rivets on the inside of the pockets? how did Ford do it? thanks, mike smith

07-28-2014, 04:34 PM	#2
oldford2 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: pittsfield, MA Posts: 2,086	Re: flat bed rivets Just a guess but if you want to retain the rivet appearance, why not modify the head of a carriage bolt to rivet size/shape and the square under the head so it will "bite" in the hole for tightening. John Last edited by oldford2; 07-28-2014 at 06:01 PM.

07-28-2014, 06:22 PM	#3
49fordv8f4 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Yellville,AR Posts: 222	Re: flat bed rivets When I replaced the back panel on my '49 flatbed, I installed the "bumpers" with rivets I made from 1/4" grade 8 bolts. I turned the head to look like a rivet and used grade 8 nuts on the inside with 640 Loctite on the threads. Mark

07-28-2014, 06:37 PM	#4
Mike B Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oakdale,Ca Posts: 1,323	Re: flat bed rivets The rivets I've taken out of my older trucks, appear to have been Hot rivets, but no idea on the process...I was going to put rivets in the bed of this '42 I'm working on, but geesh, the tool required was near 800 (might be off there...but what ever the cost, not for me) bucks as I recall, that would do 3/16th-3/8th steel rivets. I'm sure there is "some place" that can do them, but no idea where to look for it.

07-28-2014, 08:56 PM	#5
ReggieK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Troutman, NC Posts: 119	Re: flat bed rivets I don't know how Ford did it but, I have used a coupling nut, and a grade 8 bolt and formed the radius in the head of the bolt to fit the head of the rivet, and used it for a buck bar. Then I used an air hammer with the bar in it to form the head on the other end of the rivet. The .401 end rivet tools are available from several sources for different size rivets. Mac's has them. They also have the bucking bar I was referring to. Reggie

07-28-2014, 10:37 PM	#6
Bruce/CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Middlebury, CT Posts: 780	Re: flat bed rivets Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Try Roy Nacewicz at http://www.fordscript.com or Big Flats rivets at www.bigflatsrivets.com for the proper rivets and installing technique Good luck as this is not a fun job. Bruce/CT __________________ Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.......Henry Ford

07-30-2014, 08:44 PM	#8
Bruce/CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Middlebury, CT Posts: 780	Re: flat bed rivets Smiity....You are most welcome Just spoke to Roy today. He is a wealth of knowledge on these Fords and very willing to share it. Great guy and great products. He is one of my go-to guys. Bruce/CT __________________ Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.......Henry Ford

07-30-2014, 08:56 PM	#9
Rascal Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sacto, Ca Posts: 85	Re: flat bed rivets The carriage bolt method is fine , but if you have the time & patience, original rivets are the ticket. Last edited by Rascal; 07-30-2014 at 09:01 PM. Reason: additional words added.

07-30-2014, 09:09 PM	#10
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: flat bed rivets http://bigflatsrivet.com/ __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?