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Gold Digger · 06-10-2014, 09:20 PM

Does anyone know of a lube for shut off valves? The valves on two of my "A's" are real hard to turn and one is a new one. Also I'm having trouble with a tapered plug valve on a "B" John Deere. I was wondering if I rubbed some kind of soap on them if it would stay on them and not cause troubles else where. I know soap will work in an emergence when you knock a hole in a gas tank and gas don't break it down. Maybe someone knows of something made just for the business.

Fred · 06-10-2014, 09:41 PM

It comes in Brattons rebuild kits..

Drive Shaft Dave · 06-14-2014, 09:35 PM

I think one of the Model T suppliers sells such a product, Lang's Model T Parts. Kind of pricey though.

Gold Digger · 06-15-2014, 08:06 AM

I bought some stuff that was for lubricating gas valves but it didn't last but two days and it became hard to turn again. I didn't find any EZ-lube but still looking.

leadpot · 06-15-2014, 09:15 AM

Found that when I use regular (ethanol) gas the shutoff valve becomes difficult to turn. When using non ethanol (premium) it becomes smooth again. The ethanol must affect the o'rings in some way. Not sure if they expand or ???

redmodelt · 06-15-2014, 09:25 AM

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A stock shut off valve does not have o-rings. It's a tapered fit and uses graphite packing like the water pump.

From the model T forum;
I worked "Plug Valve Grease" into the felt before installing on line. That's the same stuff that is also called "Gas Tite Grease" and is designed to lubricate fuel valves. The felt seal has been in service for 15 years now with nary a hint of a leak.

I also lubricated the (original) valve with the same grease. It's getting a little hard to turn now. Guess lubing it once every 15 years isn't too much to ask.

Ignore the part about felt packing/seal.

FL&WVMIKE · 06-15-2014, 10:16 AM

Good ole WD-40 might work. Even if you had to use it every time you went out.
MIKE (mikeburch)

Raven · 06-15-2014, 01:10 PM

We used a cock grease in the Shell oil refinery I used to work at that was gasoline proof as it wasn't hydrocarbon based...we ordered it from a company here in Houston called "Val-Tex"...I'm to call them and see if I could purchase some over the counter...

Pinstripe · 06-15-2014, 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=1930 coupe;892395]Do a Google search for fuel lube and you will find several.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...ezturnlube.php[/QUOT
I checked out this site and found the fuel valve lube and a corrosion preventer and safety wire and pliers. Good site thanks

john in illinois · 06-16-2014, 10:45 AM

I use the ez turn fuel lube also on my 30 gas cap gasket and radiator cap gasket.
Takes less effort to get them off.

John

MikeK · 06-16-2014, 02:36 PM

What works a long time (years) for me is powdered graphite during assembly with NO grease or other lube. I rub it on and rub it in 'till the surfaces are shiny gray. It does not wash or dissolve in gas, and if any of the powder gets through into the carb and engine, it is harmless. I suppose powdered Moly-D would also work.

06-10-2014, 09:20 PM	#1
Gold Digger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Arkansas & Alaska Posts: 645	Lube for gas shut off valve Does anyone know of a lube for shut off valves? The valves on two of my "A's" are real hard to turn and one is a new one. Also I'm having trouble with a tapered plug valve on a "B" John Deere. I was wondering if I rubbed some kind of soap on them if it would stay on them and not cause troubles else where. I know soap will work in an emergence when you knock a hole in a gas tank and gas don't break it down. Maybe someone knows of something made just for the business.

06-10-2014, 09:41 PM	#2
Fred BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: California, Maryland Posts: 1,421	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve It comes in Brattons rebuild kits..

06-14-2014, 09:35 PM	#3
Drive Shaft Dave Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New hope Minnesota Posts: 742	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve I think one of the Model T suppliers sells such a product, Lang's Model T Parts. Kind of pricey though. Last edited by Drive Shaft Dave; 06-14-2014 at 10:29 PM.

06-15-2014, 08:06 AM	#4
Gold Digger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Arkansas & Alaska Posts: 645	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve I bought some stuff that was for lubricating gas valves but it didn't last but two days and it became hard to turn again. I didn't find any EZ-lube but still looking.

06-15-2014, 09:15 AM	#5
leadpot Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Blanchester, Ohio Posts: 109	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve Found that when I use regular (ethanol) gas the shutoff valve becomes difficult to turn. When using non ethanol (premium) it becomes smooth again. The ethanol must affect the o'rings in some way. Not sure if they expand or ???

06-15-2014, 09:25 AM	#6
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,342	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) A stock shut off valve does not have o-rings. It's a tapered fit and uses graphite packing like the water pump. From the model T forum; I worked "Plug Valve Grease" into the felt before installing on line. That's the same stuff that is also called "Gas Tite Grease" and is designed to lubricate fuel valves. The felt seal has been in service for 15 years now with nary a hint of a leak. I also lubricated the (original) valve with the same grease. It's getting a little hard to turn now. Guess lubing it once every 15 years isn't too much to ask. Ignore the part about felt packing/seal.

06-15-2014, 10:16 AM	#7
FL&WVMIKE Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, Fl & Spencer, W. Va, Posts: 4,442	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve Good ole WD-40 might work. Even if you had to use it every time you went out. MIKE (mikeburch)

06-15-2014, 01:10 PM	#8
Raven Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 37	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve We used a cock grease in the Shell oil refinery I used to work at that was gasoline proof as it wasn't hydrocarbon based...we ordered it from a company here in Houston called "Val-Tex"...I'm to call them and see if I could purchase some over the counter...

06-15-2014, 05:35 PM	#9
Pinstripe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: SW Wisconsin Posts: 192	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve [QUOTE=1930 coupe;892395]Do a Google search for fuel lube and you will find several. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...ezturnlube.php[/QUOT I checked out this site and found the fuel valve lube and a corrosion preventer and safety wire and pliers. Good site thanks

06-16-2014, 10:45 AM	#10
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,185	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve I use the ez turn fuel lube also on my 30 gas cap gasket and radiator cap gasket. Takes less effort to get them off. John

06-16-2014, 02:36 PM	#11
MikeK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Windy City Posts: 2,919	Re: Lube for gas shut off valve What works a long time (years) for me is powdered graphite during assembly with NO grease or other lube. I rub it on and rub it in 'till the surfaces are shiny gray. It does not wash or dissolve in gas, and if any of the powder gets through into the carb and engine, it is harmless. I suppose powdered Moly-D would also work.