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Detonator · 03-11-2022, 06:01 PM

I've got my throttle hardware mounted to the firewall, now I'm trying to muscle the return spring up around the throttle arm. Do I need to eat more Wheaties? There doesn't appear to be away to lever it into place and I'm not going to get it by hand.

I can see from the firewall paint that the previous owner fought this, too.

If the spring goes on BEFORE it all bolts to the firewall, I don't think I could pull the bolt into position to go THROUGH the firewall. Any ideas?

Thanks.

rich b · 03-11-2022, 06:16 PM

I usually put the spring on before, same as if it is a complete assy I was installing.

Detonator · 03-11-2022, 06:30 PM

In looking at this spring closely it appears a lot heavier than the old ones I have. It also looks heavier than the ones I see offered online. I’m thinking it’s a bad repop the last owner installed. There’s a lot of that going on with this car.

Detonator · 03-11-2022, 07:25 PM

I actually drove over to my brotherÂ’s to check out his Â‘36 and yep, his is lighter than the one IÂ’m trying to install. This car has lots of funky stuff on it, so no surprise.

DavidG · 03-11-2022, 08:08 PM

A deep well socket with an extension slipped over the outer end of the spring will give you the leverage that you need to get the end of the spring over the vertical arm of the assembly once the assembly is attached to the firewall.

Kube · 03-11-2022, 08:13 PM

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I tie a piece of twine to the spring, install the assembly, pull the twine / spring over the lever and cut the twine.

Detonator · 03-11-2022, 08:37 PM

Thanks Kube and David. I mic'd the spring when I pulled it back apart and it is indeed considerably heavier than stock. When I get the right spring, I'll use your advice.

john in illinois · 03-13-2022, 07:34 AM

I found the repo springs were too heavy also. I bought a NOS from SS Obsolete.

John

Mart · 03-13-2022, 03:36 PM

If you are struggling, it can be made easier if you disconnect the linkage and allow the arm to drop down (and the pedal raise).
Mine are ok but are original. I hook them on and off with a bent pick. On my truck it eases engine fitment if the spring is removed so the arm sticks up instead of out.

alchemy · 04-07-2022, 02:50 PM

Disclosure: my car is a hot rod.

I drove my 32 for a decade and always walked (limped) away from an hours-long ride due to the original return spring. A few years ago I took it plain off. I installed a small spring from Stromberg on the throttle shaft, and a modern style spring to another bracket pointing forward from the dual carb linkage. Much easier now on my old joints.

03-11-2022, 06:01 PM	#1
Detonator Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 391	'35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? I've got my throttle hardware mounted to the firewall, now I'm trying to muscle the return spring up around the throttle arm. Do I need to eat more Wheaties? There doesn't appear to be away to lever it into place and I'm not going to get it by hand. I can see from the firewall paint that the previous owner fought this, too. If the spring goes on BEFORE it all bolts to the firewall, I don't think I could pull the bolt into position to go THROUGH the firewall. Any ideas? Thanks. __________________ Seabright Hot Rods

03-11-2022, 06:16 PM	#2
rich b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,827	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? I usually put the spring on before, same as if it is a complete assy I was installing.

03-11-2022, 06:30 PM	#3
Detonator Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 391	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? In looking at this spring closely it appears a lot heavier than the old ones I have. It also looks heavier than the ones I see offered online. I’m thinking it’s a bad repop the last owner installed. There’s a lot of that going on with this car. __________________ Seabright Hot Rods

03-11-2022, 07:25 PM	#4
Detonator Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 391	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? I actually drove over to my brotherÂ’s to check out his Â‘36 and yep, his is lighter than the one IÂ’m trying to install. This car has lots of funky stuff on it, so no surprise. __________________ Seabright Hot Rods

03-11-2022, 08:08 PM	#5
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,102	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? A deep well socket with an extension slipped over the outer end of the spring will give you the leverage that you need to get the end of the spring over the vertical arm of the assembly once the assembly is attached to the firewall.

03-11-2022, 08:13 PM	#6
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,007	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I tie a piece of twine to the spring, install the assembly, pull the twine / spring over the lever and cut the twine. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

03-11-2022, 08:37 PM	#7
Detonator Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 391	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? Thanks Kube and David. I mic'd the spring when I pulled it back apart and it is indeed considerably heavier than stock. When I get the right spring, I'll use your advice. __________________ Seabright Hot Rods

03-13-2022, 07:34 AM	#8
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,185	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? I found the repo springs were too heavy also. I bought a NOS from SS Obsolete. John __________________ Welcome each day

03-13-2022, 03:36 PM	#9
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,755	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? If you are struggling, it can be made easier if you disconnect the linkage and allow the arm to drop down (and the pedal raise). Mine are ok but are original. I hook them on and off with a bent pick. On my truck it eases engine fitment if the spring is removed so the arm sticks up instead of out.

04-07-2022, 02:50 PM	#10
alchemy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: middle of Iowa Posts: 647	Re: '35 Throttle Spring Install? More muscle? Disclosure: my car is a hot rod. I drove my 32 for a decade and always walked (limped) away from an hours-long ride due to the original return spring. A few years ago I took it plain off. I installed a small spring from Stromberg on the throttle shaft, and a modern style spring to another bracket pointing forward from the dual carb linkage. Much easier now on my old joints.