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HoarseWhisperer · 11-15-2014, 10:56 AM

Seeking clarification on the inside mirror bracket for the Deluxe Roadster. When I acquired this unrestored vehicle, it had a black bracket with the sellers comment "don't let anyone tell you it was chromed".

1. Vendor catalogues sell chromed inside mirror brackets for the Dlx Roadster.
2. Pg 84 of the "How to Restore Your Model A -Vol 6" indicates the bracket as black.
3. The JS on 10-6 indicates the bracket as chrome, yet the "K" illustration on 10-7 refers to the outside mirror.

Can anyone clarify? Black, or Chrome? Thanks!

Bob C · 11-15-2014, 12:08 PM

I think the outside mirror is all that was supplied on the deluxe roadster,
the JS does not show an inside mirror.

Bob

wrndln · 11-15-2014, 12:22 PM

Bob,
It appears you are correct in than the JG's only shows deluxe roadsters having an outside mirror. It is hard to believe they didn't also have an inside mirror. Maybe some Deluxe roadster owner will post a better answer.
Rusty Nelson

peters180a/170b · 11-15-2014, 02:13 PM

There is no inside mirror for the DELUXE ROADSTER or DELUXE PHAETON. If you were to ADD a inside mirror you would need a STANDARD mirror bracket and paint it black... there was NO chrome inside mirror bracket for those 2 open car models.

Brother Hesekiel · 11-15-2014, 02:46 PM

I would think that since the JS do not mention an inside mirror, yet it's a required safety item in most likely every State of the Union now, it's not judged and thus up to personal interpretation. Had Ford supplied an inside mirror on the Deluxe Roadsters and Deluxe Phaetons, I'd assume it would have been stainless steel, whereas it would have been black on the standard siblings.

FL&WVMIKE · 11-15-2014, 05:12 PM

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This is strange to me.
Why did FORD not put an inside mirror on the two deluxe open cars ? Does anyone know ?
Thank you,
MIKE (mikeburch)

RonC · 11-15-2014, 05:44 PM

The inside mirror blocks your view with the lowered delux windshield. That may be the reason.

peters180a/170b · 11-15-2014, 10:10 PM

Again there was NO inside mirror for both D-Roadster or D-Phaeton no not even in STAINLESS .....Only the left side stanchion with the outside mirror. Having a windshield mirror does not help that much because the rear mirror[ window] is smaller then the standard rear mirror[ window] .And maybe that's why some people put dual spare tires [right side] so they can have mirrors on the tires. Better yet , i tried to drive my D-Phaeton with side curtains...

.... you are better off driving a sub...

tbirdtbird · 11-15-2014, 11:21 PM

"Better yet , i tried to drive my D-Phaeton with side curtains...

.... you are better off driving a sub..."

haha so true, and hence the basis of my comments to 'girl with wrench' very recently

Tom Wesenberg · 11-16-2014, 04:30 AM

Mirrors on side mounts are too far away and vibrate too much to be of any use.

They are simply Chicago bling!

HoarseWhisperer · 11-16-2014, 09:28 AM

Archive photos that I have viewed do not show an inside mirror on the Dlx Roadster.

Pg 84 of the "How to Restore Your Model A -Vol 6" indicates the inside mirror bracket as an (accessory) and black for the 40-B Dlx and also used on the 35-B, 76-B, 180-A.

Which all seems to verify the previous posts. Thanks for your help.

Lona · 11-16-2014, 09:42 AM

Interesting......I did not know the roadsters came without inside rear view mirrors. Ours has a chrome one which is very useful to view cars behind us even through the small window in the convertible top. We have the drivers side stanchion mirror which is also useful. However, I agree with Tom Wesenberg that the dual sidemount mirrors are useless because of excessive vibration.......but they look cool even though they may not be original.

Glen

SteveB31 · 11-16-2014, 02:05 PM

FYI- All Model A Pickups and AA trucks ONLY came with a left side outside mirror and NO interior mirror as well.

Tom Wesenberg · 11-16-2014, 02:48 PM

That is something I never could figure out.......why Ford didn't give the trucks an inside mirror?

Bob-A · 11-16-2014, 04:36 PM

I run the typical re-pop mirrors on the sidemounts of my '29 roadster. I added a chrome spacer to each stem that raised the mirrors approx. an
inch. Yes they do vibrate, but by raising them they do give me a better view of the rear and I use them. I also use the windwing clip on mirrors and the extra wide center windshield rear view mirror. After riding a Harley for many years. I found that knowing what is going on all around me at any given time while on the road is a life saver!

Bob-A

11-15-2014, 10:56 AM	#1
HoarseWhisperer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,470	Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? Seeking clarification on the inside mirror bracket for the Deluxe Roadster. When I acquired this unrestored vehicle, it had a black bracket with the sellers comment "don't let anyone tell you it was chromed". 1. Vendor catalogues sell chromed inside mirror brackets for the Dlx Roadster. 2. Pg 84 of the "How to Restore Your Model A -Vol 6" indicates the bracket as black. 3. The JS on 10-6 indicates the bracket as chrome, yet the "K" illustration on 10-7 refers to the outside mirror. Can anyone clarify? Black, or Chrome? Thanks! __________________ I know a lot of things; I just can't remember them all. 1928 CCPU 82-A 1931 Roadster 40-B Dlx (Canadian)

11-15-2014, 12:08 PM	#2
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,743	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? I think the outside mirror is all that was supplied on the deluxe roadster, the JS does not show an inside mirror. Bob

11-15-2014, 12:22 PM	#3
wrndln Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 5,159	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? Bob, It appears you are correct in than the JG's only shows deluxe roadsters having an outside mirror. It is hard to believe they didn't also have an inside mirror. Maybe some Deluxe roadster owner will post a better answer. Rusty Nelson

11-15-2014, 02:13 PM	#4
peters180a/170b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Putnam Valley N.Y. Posts: 2,151	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? There is no inside mirror for the DELUXE ROADSTER or DELUXE PHAETON. If you were to ADD a inside mirror you would need a STANDARD mirror bracket and paint it black... there was NO chrome inside mirror bracket for those 2 open car models.

11-15-2014, 02:46 PM	#5
Brother Hesekiel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Buenaventura, Calif. Posts: 362	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? I would think that since the JS do not mention an inside mirror, yet it's a required safety item in most likely every State of the Union now, it's not judged and thus up to personal interpretation. Had Ford supplied an inside mirror on the Deluxe Roadsters and Deluxe Phaetons, I'd assume it would have been stainless steel, whereas it would have been black on the standard siblings. __________________

11-15-2014, 05:12 PM	#6
FL&WVMIKE Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, Fl & Spencer, W. Va, Posts: 4,442	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) This is strange to me. Why did FORD not put an inside mirror on the two deluxe open cars ? Does anyone know ? Thank you, MIKE (mikeburch)

11-15-2014, 05:44 PM	#7
RonC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,868	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? The inside mirror blocks your view with the lowered delux windshield. That may be the reason.

11-15-2014, 10:10 PM	#8
peters180a/170b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Putnam Valley N.Y. Posts: 2,151	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? Again there was NO inside mirror for both D-Roadster or D-Phaeton no not even in STAINLESS .....Only the left side stanchion with the outside mirror. Having a windshield mirror does not help that much because the rear mirror[ window] is smaller then the standard rear mirror[ window] .And maybe that's why some people put dual spare tires [right side] so they can have mirrors on the tires. Better yet , i tried to drive my D-Phaeton with side curtains....... you are better off driving a sub...

11-15-2014, 11:21 PM	#9
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? "Better yet , i tried to drive my D-Phaeton with side curtains....... you are better off driving a sub..." haha so true, and hence the basis of my comments to 'girl with wrench' very recently __________________ '31 180A

11-16-2014, 04:30 AM	#10
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? Mirrors on side mounts are too far away and vibrate too much to be of any use. They are simply Chicago bling!

11-16-2014, 09:28 AM	#11
HoarseWhisperer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,470	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? Archive photos that I have viewed do not show an inside mirror on the Dlx Roadster. Pg 84 of the "How to Restore Your Model A -Vol 6" indicates the inside mirror bracket as an (accessory) and black for the 40-B Dlx and also used on the 35-B, 76-B, 180-A. Which all seems to verify the previous posts. Thanks for your help. __________________ I know a lot of things; I just can't remember them all. 1928 CCPU 82-A 1931 Roadster 40-B Dlx (Canadian)

11-16-2014, 09:42 AM	#12
Lona Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gloucester, Va Posts: 464	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? Interesting......I did not know the roadsters came without inside rear view mirrors. Ours has a chrome one which is very useful to view cars behind us even through the small window in the convertible top. We have the drivers side stanchion mirror which is also useful. However, I agree with Tom Wesenberg that the dual sidemount mirrors are useless because of excessive vibration.......but they look cool even though they may not be original. Glen __________________ '31 Model A Deluxe Roadster '31 Chrysler Model 70 Sedan '88 Pontiac Fiero GT '36 Auburn Boattail Speedster replica

11-16-2014, 02:05 PM	#13
SteveB31 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Englewood, Colorado Posts: 1,372	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? FYI- All Model A Pickups and AA trucks ONLY came with a left side outside mirror and NO interior mirror as well.

11-16-2014, 02:48 PM	#14
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? That is something I never could figure out.......why Ford didn't give the trucks an inside mirror?

11-16-2014, 04:36 PM	#15
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,137	Re: Inside Mirror Bracket for 31 Dlx Roadster - Black, or Chromed? I run the typical re-pop mirrors on the sidemounts of my '29 roadster. I added a chrome spacer to each stem that raised the mirrors approx. an inch. Yes they do vibrate, but by raising them they do give me a better view of the rear and I use them. I also use the windwing clip on mirrors and the extra wide center windshield rear view mirror. After riding a Harley for many years. I found that knowing what is going on all around me at any given time while on the road is a life saver! Bob-A