Hershey airplane question...

[Kevin in NJ]

Does anyone know what the airplane was that was for sale on the field?

How complete was it and how much were they asking?

Just curious.

Thanks!

[jimshydroshop]

It was a Curtis Jenny with an 0X-5 motor. Didn't get price but my guess is it was up there. Jim

[1930artdeco]

Someone was selling a Jenny? I would love to see pics of that.

Mike

[Patrick L.]

Originally Posted by jimshydroshop

It was a Curtis Jenny with an 0X-5 motor. Didn't get price but my guess is it was up there. Jim

Oh my gosh ! Sure wish I had gone now.

[WTSHNN]

Was it this one?



-Tim

[Joe K]

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According to Wikipedia, about 50 Curtiss Jennys are extant. Partial list below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_JN-4#Survivors

I especially liked the special that was on TV back in the 1970s about a CJ found built into a building in NYC (IIRC)

And of course the stamp...



The Great Waldo Pepper would have thought the stamp apropriate.

Joe K

[Ed Wendell]

I did not recognize the name, but it was not a Curtis Jenny.

[62pan]

Not sure of the name but I believe the asking price was $65K

[Joe K]

And you may be right. The CJ was considerably more "wooden" in its construction.

Joe K

[BlueSunoco]

The Great Waldo Pepper would have thought the stamp apropriate.

Joe K[/QUOTE]

Just watched that movie last nite! Some good Model A scenes especially the '31 Roadster towards the end!

[1930artdeco]

Yep, that is not a Jenny. It has welded aluminum struts. Either that or it is a home made version.

Mike

[Roadster62]

It was down the isle from me NOT a Jenney but the OX5 was real. Guy also had what he claimed were the body remains of a GP Bugatti, they were worth their weight in scrap, and had never seen the inside of the Bugatti factory. Bob

[Arlen]

That's the only plane I saw there. He said wings were in the trailer. Looked like a wreck to me.

[Mike V. Florida]

And the engine was a marine version of the the engine.

[Aerocraft]

Having restored an original Jenny, this is airplane is not even close. The Curtiss Jenny had an all wood wire braced fuselage, wood landing gear, and wooden tail surfaces.

Gar Williams

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

If you decide you want to contact the owner, he is a friend of mine and a VERY talented craftsman. His name is Charlie Glick. Look him up at Heartland Antique Auto Museum in Paris (Illinois )

[Mike V. Florida]

it was a Lincoln Page. this is what it could look like restored,

[Roadster62]

Would the FAA or whoever certifies the airworthyness of a restoration allow that original fuselage to be used, or do you need to build a new one using the original as a pattern? Bob

[huddy]

Originally Posted by Roadster62

Would the FAA or whoever certifies the airworthyness of a restoration allow that original fuselage to be used, or do you need to build a new one using the original as a pattern? Bob

Depends upon condition. Major repairs would have to be documented by a form 337, signed by an Airframe & Powerplant mechanic with an Inspection Authorization, to certify that "approved" methods were used for the repair. The 337 is sent to the FAA who reviews it and ultimately approves it. Typically for a metal airframe, it would need to be sandblasted, inspected for cracks and other structural issues, repaired as needed, inspected again, then primed & painted. This is fairly common and can be performed by someone with decent gas welding skills. The work doesn't have to be performed by a certified mechanic as long as he/she oversees the work (the mechanic has to sign it off and is the responsible party).

Rebuilding from scratch is OK but more problematic as it would be necessary to prove that you used the exact same processes and materials as the original, plus you'd need to fabricate a number of fixtures and jigs to maintain the correct geometry. It's been done but it's analogous to doing a high point restoration on an elite automobile, e.g. time consuming and expensive. This is mainly why you don't see a lot of those old birds flying. The temptation is to improve the design by using the better materials and techniques that are available today, but that can be really difficult to obtain approval later, as this falls outside the definition of "major repair" and becomes a "major alteration" which must have approval by a FAA engineer or designee, or must duplicate a previously approved alteration.

Wooden structures are handled in a similar manner except of course you are performing quality wood working (more akin to cabinet making than carpentry) and using some repair techniques and materials that are unique to wooden aircraft structures.

In any of the above cases, it's essential to involve the local FAA office early in the process to ensure that you don't go on a path that results in a very expensive lawn ornament.

This is why cars are so much easier to work on, and why you see a lot of old airframes hanging from the ceiling in upscale bars and restaurants.