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chiro · 01-26-2012, 09:00 AM

I like to research stuff and I like to read. It helps when building a car.

When I built my '55 first series Chevy pickup, I got a Chevy factory shop manual for it to help with technical stuff for the build. I also got a copy of the factory assembly manual which was very helpful as well.

Maybe I'm not looking in the right spots, but I would like to get a Ford factory shop manual for a, '30 Model A, a '32 Ford, a '40 Ford and a '47 Ford, but have not been able to find them.

Can somebody point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Andy

mrtexas · 01-26-2012, 09:09 AM

No factory manuals exist. The best how to shop manual is the one by Les Andrews.

jimalabam · 01-26-2012, 09:12 AM

mrtexas What about original and repop Service Bulletins and Service Letters???

1931 flamingo · 01-26-2012, 09:28 AM

Service bulletins and les andrews book avail from most model A vendors.
Paul in CT

Tom Wesenberg · 01-26-2012, 09:34 AM

Also you should have the Restoration Guidlines/ Judging Standards available from either of the national clubs.

Also attending a national meet and taking lots of DETAIL photos of original cars and high point cars is a big help.

steve s · 01-26-2012, 09:44 AM

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Also, be aware that the book titled Restorer's Model A Shop Manual isn't.

Bruce Lancaster · 01-26-2012, 10:14 AM

First go buy rprints of all the Service Bulletins 1928-48...this is about 90% of what you need to know mechanically, but presented cumulatively and with several different organizing schemes over the years. If you want to rebuild the Model rear axle or the '47 carburetor, all the info is there but you need to hunt for it. The main thing is that the information is authoritative.
From there, there are a lot of books to chase! The parts manuals are an excellent aid to the repair manuals. At least get the '28-48.
Page's Model A manual was a partially successful to organize Ford lit for the Model A, worth looking at.
For all the '32-48 stuff there are actual Ford manuals out there, with the mose essential available in reprint. And--remember why Ford ut this stuff in a cumulative form: Overall design has remarkable continuity, and procedures pulled from the 1928 information and procedures pulled from the 1946 shop manual will both inform you at the other end of the timeline.

mrtexas · 01-26-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim/Alabam

mrtexas What about original and repop Service Bulletins and Service Letters???

You need those too but I wouldn't call them a shop manual

1930artdeco · 01-26-2012, 11:05 AM

I am just curious...I too 'grew up' on having a Chiltons manual for my cars. What did they really have back in 1930 for working on the Model A. Someone, had to have a manual beside the service bulletins.

Mike

silvertop · 01-26-2012, 06:19 PM

There was a publication by Floyd Clymer called (Model A Ford Service Manual And Handbook), written in 1929 and 1930 near the end of Model A production by S.A.E. member Victor Page. He was considered to be the most outstanding authority on Model A Ford cars. It is 560 pages and over 300 illustrations, and cutaway views.

Mikeinnj · 01-26-2012, 10:19 PM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...condition=used

Here is a link to Victor Page's book as listed on Amazon.com

I wish I had bought a whole case them ($$$) instead of one copy,way back when they were in print.

mrtexas · 01-26-2012, 10:57 PM

Here is one for $30
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...orer&x=56&y=18

I've got the Clymer and Page books.

Neither the Page nor Clymer book is a shop manual IMHO.

chiro · 02-10-2012, 06:32 AM

Thanks for the replies everybody. Are any of these manulas available for online viewing as so many other shop manuals and parts interchange books are?

Thanks,

Andy

Mike V. Florida · 02-10-2012, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiro

Thanks for the replies everybody. Are any of these manulas available for online viewing as so many other shop manuals and parts interchange books are?

Thanks,

Andy

Sorry but no, they are not available in digital versions.

Kevin in NJ · 02-10-2012, 07:20 AM

You will want to read my general comments on my webpage

General comments

The approach to having a reliable early Ford boils down to understanding Ford used precision manufacturing and you must restore this precision.

The fun part is trying to weed through years of bad advice in all kinds of written publications.

01-26-2012, 09:00 AM	#1
chiro Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 113	Shop manuals I like to research stuff and I like to read. It helps when building a car. When I built my '55 first series Chevy pickup, I got a Chevy factory shop manual for it to help with technical stuff for the build. I also got a copy of the factory assembly manual which was very helpful as well. Maybe I'm not looking in the right spots, but I would like to get a Ford factory shop manual for a, '30 Model A, a '32 Ford, a '40 Ford and a '47 Ford, but have not been able to find them. Can somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks, Andy

01-26-2012, 09:09 AM	#2
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,395	Re: Shop manuals No factory manuals exist. The best how to shop manual is the one by Les Andrews.

01-26-2012, 09:12 AM	#3
jimalabam Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lee County Alabama Posts: 828	Re: Shop manuals mrtexas What about original and repop Service Bulletins and Service Letters???

01-26-2012, 09:28 AM	#4
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Shop manuals Service bulletins and les andrews book avail from most model A vendors. Paul in CT

01-26-2012, 09:34 AM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Shop manuals Also you should have the Restoration Guidlines/ Judging Standards available from either of the national clubs. Also attending a national meet and taking lots of DETAIL photos of original cars and high point cars is a big help. Last edited by Tom Wesenberg; 01-26-2012 at 09:58 AM.

01-26-2012, 09:44 AM	#6
steve s Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kalamazoo Posts: 1,656	Re: Shop manuals Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Also, be aware that the book titled Restorer's Model A Shop Manual isn't.

01-26-2012, 10:14 AM	#7
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Shop manuals First go buy rprints of all the Service Bulletins 1928-48...this is about 90% of what you need to know mechanically, but presented cumulatively and with several different organizing schemes over the years. If you want to rebuild the Model rear axle or the '47 carburetor, all the info is there but you need to hunt for it. The main thing is that the information is authoritative. From there, there are a lot of books to chase! The parts manuals are an excellent aid to the repair manuals. At least get the '28-48. Page's Model A manual was a partially successful to organize Ford lit for the Model A, worth looking at. For all the '32-48 stuff there are actual Ford manuals out there, with the mose essential available in reprint. And--remember why Ford ut this stuff in a cumulative form: Overall design has remarkable continuity, and procedures pulled from the 1928 information and procedures pulled from the 1946 shop manual will both inform you at the other end of the timeline.

01-26-2012, 11:05 AM	#9
1930artdeco Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lynden, Wa Posts: 3,552	Re: Shop manuals I am just curious...I too 'grew up' on having a Chiltons manual for my cars. What did they really have back in 1930 for working on the Model A. Someone, had to have a manual beside the service bulletins. Mike __________________ 1930 TownSedan (Briggs) 1957 Country Sedan

01-26-2012, 06:19 PM	#10
silvertop Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: pittsburgh, Pa. Posts: 64	Re: Shop manuals There was a publication by Floyd Clymer called (Model A Ford Service Manual And Handbook), written in 1929 and 1930 near the end of Model A production by S.A.E. member Victor Page. He was considered to be the most outstanding authority on Model A Ford cars. It is 560 pages and over 300 illustrations, and cutaway views. __________________ The only thing that can beat an attempt----is a failure!!!!

01-26-2012, 10:19 PM	#11
Mikeinnj Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 1,262	Re: Shop manuals http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...condition=used Here is a link to Victor Page's book as listed on Amazon.com I wish I had bought a whole case them ($$$) instead of one copy,way back when they were in print.

01-26-2012, 10:57 PM	#12
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,395	Re: Shop manuals Here is one for $30 http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...orer&x=56&y=18 I've got the Clymer and Page books. Neither the Page nor Clymer book is a shop manual IMHO.

02-10-2012, 06:32 AM	#13
chiro Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 113	Re: Shop manuals Thanks for the replies everybody. Are any of these manulas available for online viewing as so many other shop manuals and parts interchange books are? Thanks, Andy

02-10-2012, 07:20 AM	#15
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: Shop manuals You will want to read my general comments on my webpage General comments The approach to having a reliable early Ford boils down to understanding Ford used precision manufacturing and you must restore this precision. The fun part is trying to weed through years of bad advice in all kinds of written publications.