10-10-2015, 07:57 AM | #1 |
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32-36 heads
Someone recently emailed me about V-8 21 stud flat heads. I do not currently make these heads because I do not know if there is a market for them. Is this a hard-to-find product?
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10-10-2015, 08:50 AM | #2 |
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Re: 32-36 heads
32 is a unique head, 33-34 another, 35 another and 36 another, nearly all years can have slightly different modifications. In good condition with the proper markings and combustion chambers in aluminum some are harder than others but they do show up. They seem to be harder and harder to find as time passes especially in pairs. Can you put the Ford script into the casting??
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My advantage is that I can model, CNC cut patterns, cast, and machine them myself. If the differences are minor, the main modeling can be used as a base to make others. But, there needs to be enough of a market to warrant the time, material, and machining set up costs. I can do my own patterns for just material cost. Machine programming is easy but fixturing cost needs to be covered also. I am making a few different Model A heads right now. Since I machine them all day every day I have no machining set up costs to consider. All I have out of pocket is pattern material costs which are minor. The same production model would apply here if sales even justified doing anything. Tod |
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Re: 32-36 heads
Kearney Foundry in California has been making 33-36 alum heads for some time now. They sell for about $1600 a pair.
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Re: 32-36 heads
Kearney Pattern works and Foundry www.kearneyfoundry.com
High quality A356 Aluminum heads for vintage Ford and Lincoln
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REPLICA CASTINGS: Kearney Pattern Works & Foundry manufactures exact duplicate cylinder heads for 1933-1936 Ford V8's, as well as a finned "Hot Rod" version. We manufacture exact duplicate finned cylinder heads for V-12 Lincoln flatheads, as well as a custom 3 carburetor intake manifold. These products are commonly sold to individuals who restore cars and require the very best when entering shows.
I installed a set/pair of these Kearney heads on my '34 this past spring. Ford Script - Ford Licensed. They're beautiful! $1500.00 per set....
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There is also someone in Australia making original looking '33 to '36, 21 stud aluminum heads. Lawrie knows the details on these. I do not think these would have the Ford script logo.
Don Orosco is reproducing the Eddie Meyer finned aluminum 21 stud heads for '33 to '36, and I believe H&H Flatheads is tooling up to reproduce one of the other well known manufacturer's (Sharp) 21 stud finned aluminum heads for '33 to '36. https://m.facebook.com/pages/HH-Flatheads/107412273018 That's a good number of offerings already for a rather limited market, since many feel they must move up/convert to the later 24 stud engines. Actually, I like the 21 stud engines in my cars. They get me anywhere I want to go, as fast as I need to get there ☺
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Yeh, I am sure I know that OZ guy making the heads.
Will prob see him at the usual swap next february, and check him out, as only in this past year I have started an AV8. |
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Good original 1932 cast iron heads are very hard to find here. Apparently when they were cast at time when the 1932 engines were having there casting problems and the outside part of the head at the top is cast very thin in places and just needs a slight bit of corrosion or stress and they crack very easily. I have had my heads drilled and pegged by an automotive technician he thought they were too thin and I cannot find a good left hand one.
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Well, if there are that many in the mix I guess my idea of a set for 8 or 900 bucks is a non-starter.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Kearney copied the 36 truck cast iron head and they are not exact 33-34 car examples. The plug pockets are slightly smaller than the aluminum 33-34 s . Please disregard if I am wrong....
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Jon Scobel, former owner of Kearney Pattern Works is an avid Flathead V8 hobbyist and a purist with respect to these heads cast at Kearney. When I purchased the heads for my '34, I was shown a list of the various '33 - '36 castings available at Kearney. The list stipulated which head was correct for each model year car. The aluminum heads for those years were not identical to one another as there were minor differences. For example, some had Ford script and some didn't....
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Does anyone know which of the currently produced 21 stud heads is the best for power?
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Here is a photo of the 34 Kearney Pattern Works heads that I bought for my roadster.
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10-11-2015, 02:40 PM | #17 |
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Steve, Although slightly off the thread topic, how do you like your new Kearney heads?
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Here are pictures of the Kearney heads I purchased for my '34 this past Spring. You can see the differences as compared to Steve's heads above....
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Although I haven't officially ran the engine because my 34 is still under restoration the heads fit nicely to the block. The one thing that I like is that you can use these heads with domed or flat pistons.
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Very nice!
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