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mshmodela · 08-18-2016, 07:36 AM

As other post has:

http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=OH

It's well worth the effort and price (I pay $3.30/gal) for 100% pure gasoline at the single station in Cleveland/Cuyahoga County...

You can search out what ethanol along does with atmospheric moisture does to metal. I think of it like car cholesterol --avoid it has much as you can.

ian Simpson · 08-18-2016, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 700rpm

Mitch, aren't you concerned about a spark with your electrical pump? Or is it isolated or grounded in some way for safety?

We fuel tractors, combines, etc. in the field with electric pumps for both gas and diesel.

Make sure to connect a ground between tank and tractor, especially for diesel, and keep the on/off switch away from the fuel.

Quigley1930 · 08-19-2016, 08:29 PM

I use a battery (2-D batts) transfer pump that cost less than 20 bucks. You see them in a lot of the catalogs that your wives get

They aren't the fastest but I just can't lift a 5 gal. can anymore and pour it

. Google battery transfer pumps and the should pop up.

Sewall

denis4x4 · 08-22-2016, 01:10 PM

Just learned that starting next month I'll be able to get ethanol free fuel delivered to the house from the Co-Op.

Tom Wesenberg · 08-22-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by denis4x4

Just learned that starting next month I'll be able to get ethanol free fuel delivered to the house from the Co-Op.

Now, that's what surprised me. I always thought the Co-Op was farmer owned and wouldn't want to sell the good gas without corn crap in it, but a year and a half ago I filled up at a Co-Op in northern MN and they were selling the good gas for the same price as crap gas. Here in the cities I have to pay 60 cents to a buck a gallon extra for the good gas.

Drive Shaft Dave · 08-22-2016, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Now, that's what surprised me. I always thought the Co-Op was farmer owned and wouldn't want to sell the good gas without corn crap in it, but a year and a half ago I filled up at a Co-Op in northern MN and they were selling the good gas for the same price as crap gas. Here in the cities I have to pay 60 cents to a buck a gallon extra for the good gas.

Yes we can all thank Hennepin county for that.

Drive Shaft Dave · 08-22-2016, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Drive Shaft Dave

Yes we can all thank Hennepin county for that.

Dutie · 10-01-2016, 10:46 PM

Here in New York state I use the real gas from a stewarts store. The premium 91 octane is ethanol free and just 50 cents more than the regular. Happy Motoring, Dutie.

ian Simpson · 10-02-2016, 09:15 PM

I fuelled all three collector vehicles at Costco today. Ethanol free premium was CDN10 cents per litre (CDN40 cents per US gallon) over the price of ethanol laced regular.

Fred S · 10-02-2016, 09:42 PM

Out of luck in my area, except for bring your own container, for Sunoco racing fuel at $8 a gallon.

Robert/Texas · 11-15-2016, 05:29 PM

I stopped at the huge Buccee's station in Waller, Texas yesterday. They have recently installed a new long row of pumps and all have etheno1 free gas, $1.809 for regular, $2.809 for ethanol free. I think that I'll continue using the bad stuff though but might get a few gallons for my chain saw and weed eater. For comparison, regular was $1.759 at Costco today.

denis4x4 · 11-15-2016, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by denis4x4

Just learned that starting next month I'll be able to get ethanol free fuel delivered to the house from the Co-Op.

Received my second load of ethanol free gas. Went from $2.45 a gallon to $2.39 a gallon on the second load. Figure one more delivery and I'll have pure gas in my 300 gallon above ground tank. It's 88 octane and I can really notice an improvement regarding MPG.

eagle · 11-15-2016, 09:56 PM

Pour your ethanol gas into a glass carboy, add 10% or a bit more clean water to it and shake it up. Then let it sit for a couple days. Drain off the top and you'll have ethanol free gas for less than 20 cents per gallon more than ethanol gas.

Synchro909 · 11-15-2016, 10:55 PM

There are times when I'm touring that fuel supplies are further apart than one tank will take me. To refill on the roadside, I lift a 20 litre jerrycan onto the scuttle and siphon it in with one of these:
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Pro...-5m-3-LPM/2017
As for availability of pure petrol, it is the main fuel sold at EVERY service station. Ethanol fuel is available but I don't know anybody who bothers with it.

TerryH · 11-15-2016, 11:59 PM

Well, since all the thousands of Model A's in California have absolutely no option to use anything but ethanol laden fuel, it appears that all of us will soon lose our cars due to the extreme effect it is having on all those metal parts. But I have only been using the "crap" gas for 10 years now, so maybe in another 10 years it will catch up to us. It's amusing to me how few problems we have with it when we have no choice. My honest take? Slightly worse gas mileage.....that's it.....starts up instantly, runs great, no vapor lock, clean fuel tank.

updraught · 11-16-2016, 12:03 AM

It's coming. The state of New South Wales has just introduced legislation with half a million in fines for service stations not stocking it because sales are so small.

Dick Steinkamp · 11-16-2016, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TerryH

Well, since all the thousands of Model A's in California have absolutely no option to use anything but ethanol laden fuel, it appears that all of us will soon lose our cars due to the extreme effect it is having on all those metal parts. But I have only been using the "crap" gas for 10 years now, so maybe in another 10 years it will catch up to us. It's amusing to me how few problems we have with it when we have no choice. My honest take? Slightly worse gas mileage.....that's it.....starts up instantly, runs great, no vapor lock, clean fuel tank.

x2 with me...and the higher price per gallon of non ethanol fuel doesn't come close to offsetting the 3% drop in mileage. If you get 17 MPG with pure gas, you'll get 16.5 under exactly the same conditions with E10. I doubt if that can even be measured in the real world.

"In general, vehicle fuel economy may decrease by about 3% when using E10 relative to gasoline that does not contain fuel ethanol."

http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=27&t=4

wmws · 11-16-2016, 04:32 PM

I must say I have used 10% corn gas here in Pa. for years and have never had a problem in any car tractor motorcycle or lawn mower. I'm sure a little less mileage but so far so good.

Bruce Adams · 11-16-2016, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Ray
It's the same as the pump being installed on the car except it's on the ground. I have a fuel hose going into the can and a fuel hose going into the gas tank.. The pump is powered by an external 12v source

I feel the electric transfer pump should be grounded to the vehicle.

DJ S · 11-16-2016, 05:17 PM

I can get it in my town if I wanted to. I usually just buy the cheapest gas there is, my grandpa and i have been doing this for years. We've never had an issue.

08-18-2016, 07:36 AM	#21
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: Getting Pure Gas As other post has: http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=OH It's well worth the effort and price (I pay $3.30/gal) for 100% pure gasoline at the single station in Cleveland/Cuyahoga County... You can search out what ethanol along does with atmospheric moisture does to metal. I think of it like car cholesterol --avoid it has much as you can. __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio Last edited by mshmodela; 08-18-2016 at 07:42 AM.

08-19-2016, 08:29 PM	#23
Quigley1930 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Middleburg, Virginia Posts: 421	Re: Getting Pure Gas I use a battery (2-D batts) transfer pump that cost less than 20 bucks. You see them in a lot of the catalogs that your wives get They aren't the fastest but I just can't lift a 5 gal. can anymore and pour it. Google battery transfer pumps and the should pop up. Sewall

08-22-2016, 01:10 PM	#24
denis4x4 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Durango CO Posts: 1,312	Re: Getting Pure Gas Just learned that starting next month I'll be able to get ethanol free fuel delivered to the house from the Co-Op. __________________ No restorable Model A's were harmed in the building of this truck!

10-01-2016, 10:46 PM	#28
Dutie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Kingston N>Y> Posts: 121	Re: Getting Pure Gas Here in New York state I use the real gas from a stewarts store. The premium 91 octane is ethanol free and just 50 cents more than the regular. Happy Motoring, Dutie.

10-02-2016, 09:15 PM	#29
ian Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 709	Re: Getting Pure Gas I fuelled all three collector vehicles at Costco today. Ethanol free premium was CDN10 cents per litre (CDN40 cents per US gallon) over the price of ethanol laced regular.

10-02-2016, 09:42 PM	#30
Fred S Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 137	Re: Getting Pure Gas Out of luck in my area, except for bring your own container, for Sunoco racing fuel at $8 a gallon. Last edited by Fred S; 10-02-2016 at 10:49 PM. Reason: Screwd up

11-15-2016, 05:29 PM	#31
Robert/Texas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Burton, Texas Posts: 687	Re: Getting Pure Gas I stopped at the huge Buccee's station in Waller, Texas yesterday. They have recently installed a new long row of pumps and all have etheno1 free gas, $1.809 for regular, $2.809 for ethanol free. I think that I'll continue using the bad stuff though but might get a few gallons for my chain saw and weed eater. For comparison, regular was $1.759 at Costco today.

11-15-2016, 09:56 PM	#33
eagle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Eagle Bend, MN Posts: 2,027	Re: Getting Pure Gas Pour your ethanol gas into a glass carboy, add 10% or a bit more clean water to it and shake it up. Then let it sit for a couple days. Drain off the top and you'll have ethanol free gas for less than 20 cents per gallon more than ethanol gas. __________________ "There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool."

11-15-2016, 10:55 PM	#34
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,553	Re: Getting Pure Gas There are times when I'm touring that fuel supplies are further apart than one tank will take me. To refill on the roadside, I lift a 20 litre jerrycan onto the scuttle and siphon it in with one of these: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Pro...-5m-3-LPM/2017 As for availability of pure petrol, it is the main fuel sold at EVERY service station. Ethanol fuel is available but I don't know anybody who bothers with it. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

11-15-2016, 11:59 PM	#35
TerryH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fountain Valley, Calif. Posts: 937	Re: Getting Pure Gas Well, since all the thousands of Model A's in California have absolutely no option to use anything but ethanol laden fuel, it appears that all of us will soon lose our cars due to the extreme effect it is having on all those metal parts. But I have only been using the "crap" gas for 10 years now, so maybe in another 10 years it will catch up to us. It's amusing to me how few problems we have with it when we have no choice. My honest take? Slightly worse gas mileage.....that's it.....starts up instantly, runs great, no vapor lock, clean fuel tank.

11-16-2016, 12:03 AM	#36
updraught Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 1,982	Re: Getting Pure Gas It's coming. The state of New South Wales has just introduced legislation with half a million in fines for service stations not stocking it because sales are so small.

11-16-2016, 04:32 PM	#38
wmws BANNED Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Coatesville, Pa Posts: 719	Re: Getting Pure Gas I must say I have used 10% corn gas here in Pa. for years and have never had a problem in any car tractor motorcycle or lawn mower. I'm sure a little less mileage but so far so good.

11-16-2016, 05:17 PM	#40
DJ S Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Southwick, MA Posts: 590	Re: Getting Pure Gas I can get it in my town if I wanted to. I usually just buy the cheapest gas there is, my grandpa and i have been doing this for years. We've never had an issue.