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Old 01-28-2011, 10:49 AM   #1
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Default Mr. Tube...No need to pull the body...

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Sounds like it has a 28/29 cross member bolted into the frame. Frame is a 30 or 31 and the only way for me to know is to pull the cab and look at the serial number.

I appreciate all of the help. Maybe at one point down the road I can do something about the 6 bolts going through the fenders.


Not so fast Mr. Tube...there are still a few thing you can do without pulling the cab off and checking the engine/frame number.

The following is from my frame article. You can still "key" out your frame by checking for the following:

1. Is there or is there not the "upper hole for the Front Fender Bracket" which was added back in August 1929 (See Ford Service Bulletins)? This was deleted about July 1930;

2. Check the Body Bracket on Frame--Front...this bracket "moved to the REAR 2-3/8 inches" about late September, early October 1930 (I believe if this was done, you can only use just one bolt in that area???); Correct, not correct...Anyone?

3. Also around late September, early October 1930, Frame Body Bracket #6 was added. HOWEVER...If the bracket is not there, the frame may or will have center punch marks indicating the location of this bracket;

4. Next, check the running board brackets...These were revised sometime after May 1931 in that the "ribs" on the top of the bracket were increased to prevent breakage".

Sorry...no photos...go to my website to view the photos.

So see Mr. Tube...no need to pull the body! (Not unless you really want to!)

Pluck

July saw the removal of the upper hole for
the Front Fender Bracket, which was
added back in August of 1929. There was
also the relocation of the four lower rivet
holes for attaching the bottom flange of
the Front Cross Member to the Frame Side
members (not confirmed).
FRAME ASSEMBLY A-5005-D
On September 18, 1930, Release Number
17050 Supplement #18 saw the Body
Bracket on Frame – Front move to the rear
2-3/8 inches
(Fig. 18). Ford decided to
“number” the holes in the frame for the
“convenience in identifying holes.” The
proper numbering of these frame holes can
be found in the MARC/MAFCA
Restoration Guidelines and Judging
Standards. The release also indicated the
addition of Frame Assembly A-5005-D.
Frame Assembly A-5005-D differed from
Frame Assembly, A-5005-C in only one
major aspect and that was A-5005-D had
the addition of the Frame Body Bracket #6
Body Bolt, A-5076. It was located just in
front of the rear running board bracket

(Fig. 19)
. This frame was assigned to the
Standard Fordor Sedan 160-A, the Town
Sedan 160-B and the Victoria 190-A.
Frames without this bracket may be center
punched to show the location.
The May 16, 1931, Release Number
19799 specified that the foot of the
Running Board Brackets be revised in that
ribs be put on each side of the top rivet
hole to increase the strength and prevent
breakage “as soon as the dies can be
made.” Three more cars were added to the
list for Frame Assembly A-5005-D in
May, 1931. Those were the Deluxe
Fordor Sedan, 160-C, the Town Car
Delivery 295-A, and the Convertible
Sedan 400-A. The frame has also been
associated with the Cabriolet 68-C, but
was never mentioned in any of the Ford

releases that were reviewed.

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Wow thanks Steve!!!

I will look for these things tonight.
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