Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-26-2024, 07:32 PM   #1
Vern1030
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 15
Default Water pump

Do you have to grease the new leak less water pump?.....Vern
Vern1030 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2024, 08:34 PM   #2
Rob Doe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 499
Default Re: Water pump

The one I have has to be greased front and rear.
__________________
"It ain't what you know for certain that gets ya in trouble. It's what ya know for certain that just ain't so!"
Rob Doe is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 04-26-2024, 08:43 PM   #3
Banditorama
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2023
Posts: 152
Default Re: Water pump

If it has the sealed ball bearing, then no.
Banditorama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2024, 09:38 PM   #4
Vern1030
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 15
Default Re: Water pump

How can you tell if it has sealed bearing?.....Vern
Vern1030 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2024, 11:33 PM   #5
The Master Cylinder
Senior Member
 
The Master Cylinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 888
Default Re: Water pump

I would think if it was sealess you would not be able to pump grease into it.
__________________
The Master Cylinder

Enjoying life at the beach in SoCal...

Last edited by The Master Cylinder; 04-27-2024 at 03:26 PM.
The Master Cylinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2024, 03:26 AM   #6
johnbuckley
Senior Member
 
johnbuckley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,445
Default Re: Water pump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Master Cylinder View Post
I would think if it was seals you would not be able to pump grease into it.
... it ain't necessarily so...if you have a good grease gun you can blow the seal!! don't ask
"How can you tell if it has sealed bearing?.....Vern" Ah, generally exteriors look identical, so you can't differentiate unless you take it off and dismantle, thus unless you're wanting some spannering I would just try a gentle squirt of grease.

Last edited by johnbuckley; 04-27-2024 at 03:42 AM.
johnbuckley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2024, 02:33 PM   #7
David in San Antonio
Senior Member
 
David in San Antonio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 226
Default Re: Water pump

Some prior owner of the Wretched Roadster put sealed bearings both front and rear. Surprise!
__________________
David in San Antonio
1930 ('31?) Deluxe "Wretched Roadster"
Restored 1957
Alamo A’s Club
David in San Antonio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2024, 07:17 PM   #8
Rob Doe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 499
Default Re: Water pump

I have a stock water pump. I ran it stock for a few thousand miles, then bought the modified rear portion, the brass part with a modern seal for the rear. It is still brass for the bearing and the rear fitting takes grease. I add one or two capfuls at a time. The front uses the original roller bearing type and requires a squirt at 500 miles.

I was able to use a ~5 1/2" bolt and some washers and a nut to push out the stock brass insert and my 8" vice was just big enough to press the new sealed unit in. The original packing and gland nut remains but is not tightened. It will be the backup to get me home when the seal fails.

The car cam with and the vendors have sold pumps that require no grease front or rear. Modern sealed bearings are installed in both places. The zerks are still on the pump, but the passages are not there. It looks original to the eye.

The one on our coupe when we got it 3 years ago was a very expensive one. And the individual that made it has retired and the web site is gone. It has a double row / two sealed bearings at the front. They were pressed onto the shaft and thus there was no issue with the for and aft movement of the impeller. It made it 11000 miles and failed. It was a nice outfit.

I learned from the forums and then reading all the info on Snyder's and Bratton's for their pumps.
__________________
"It ain't what you know for certain that gets ya in trouble. It's what ya know for certain that just ain't so!"
Rob Doe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2024, 06:21 PM   #9
Synchro909
Senior Member
 
Synchro909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 7,510
Default Re: Water pump

Quote:
Originally Posted by David in San Antonio View Post
Some prior owner of the Wretched Roadster put sealed bearings both front and rear. Surprise!
All of my water pumps have sealed ball bearings front and back and a modern seal. With nothing rubbing on the shaft, I figure they will last as long as a modern one does and who ever hears of a modern car needing a new water pump.
__________________
I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.
Synchro909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2024, 02:38 AM   #10
johnbuckley
Senior Member
 
johnbuckley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,445
Default Re: Water pump

Quote:
Originally Posted by Synchro909 View Post
... and who ever hears of a modern car needing a new water pump.
Me! on a 7 year old Lexus.
johnbuckley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2024, 07:02 AM   #11
Steves46
Senior Member
 
Steves46's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Lithia, FL
Posts: 1,052
Default Re: Water pump

If you purchased it from a Vendor, give them a call and ask.
__________________
If it aint broke, don't fix it!
Steves46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:33 AM.