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Old 10-09-2015, 08:55 AM   #1
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Default 1941 Ford Super Deluxe business Coupe

Hello everyone,

I need an answer to this question. I have a 1941 SUPER DELUXE ALL ORIGINAL 2 DOOR BUSINESS COUPE.

This car has not been messed with. My question for you is How many 1941 Super Deluxe Business Coupes were made in 41
I have some judge telling me there was no such car. that they were all just Deluxe's. My car has all the trim all the badges the right front bumper the two visors the right dash steering wheel ect ect. The rear does not slope like a business coupe. I think this judge is all wrong. I have it on ebay and this guy is just trashing my car for no reason at all.
Can somebody please help me. Maybe you guys may have a book on how many Super Deluxe Business Coupes were made. I once saw the stats so I know the car was made. I just need an answer so I can go back and show this guy.

Thank you for all your help and time. I really need it on this one.
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:21 AM   #2
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That number is in the "early V8 album" (available from the Early V* club) but I'm at work right now so I don't have it for you. The "Judge" is in error. The business coupe that only was offered in the Deluxe version was the 1947-8 version. In 1941 there was a special(one taillight), Deluxe(bumpers look similar to a 1940), and Super Deluxe version of the business coupe. I've seen a number of the Super Deluxe coupes thru the years and they seem to be more common than the cheaper versions.
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:30 AM   #3
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Default Re: 1941 Ford Super Deluxe business Coupe

The Super deluxe thing was mostly just one of the packages that each individual body style could be purchased in for the three different levels of trim quality for lack of anything else to call it. The coupes changed in 1941. The sedan or long door coupe became available in the special, deluxe, or super deluxe versions and the business or 5-window coupe was also available in the same three levels of quality.

Now I have no idea how many were manufactured but I doubt that they are any more rare than any other 1-year only design. The super deluxe packages were V8 only as far as I know and they have all the bells & whistles trim, radio, and the clock as standard equipment.
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:59 AM   #4
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Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me. This will prove the judge wrong. All the guys at Ford Barn are so supportive. I Thank each and everyone of you.
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:46 AM   #5
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I'm just curious, was this "judge" from the EFV8 Club, AACA, or some other antique automobile organization?
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:17 AM   #6
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Here's the 1941 Super DeLuxe Coupe production numbers from The V-8 ALBUM.
1941 Super DeLuxe Coupe 11A-77B 14,115. This had only a front seat.
1941 Super DeLuxe Coupe Model 11A-67B 6575. This had jump seats.
1941 Super DeLuxe Sedan Coupe Model 11A-72 33,019. This had a back seat.
All had 114 in. wheel base and were the same length bumper to bumper. The drawings in the V-8ALBUM show that the Super Deluxe Sedan Coupe had the "long doors" and did not have the sleek sloping roof line where the roof meets the trunk area. The other coupes had the "short doors" and the more sloping rear roof line. Here's photos and info. from the V-8 ALBUM. Hope this helps. Click on photo to enlarge.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:03 PM   #7
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AACA His name is Ron, He is in his mid 80's
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:03 PM   #8
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Hello everyone,

I need an answer to this question. I have a 1941 SUPER DELUXE ALL ORIGINAL 2 DOOR BUSINESS COUPE.

This car has not been messed with. My question for you is How many 1941 Super Deluxe Business Coupes were made in 41
I have some judge telling me there was no such car. that they were all just Deluxe's. My car has all the trim all the badges the right front bumper the two visors the right dash steering wheel ect ect. The rear does not slope like a business coupe. I think this judge is all wrong. I have it on ebay and this guy is just trashing my car for no reason at all.
Can somebody please help me. Maybe you guys may have a book on how many Super Deluxe Business Coupes were made. I once saw the stats so I know the car was made. I just need an answer so I can go back and show this guy.

Thank you for all your help and time. I really need it on this one.
Joe D
So who is this "judge". Is he an Early Ford V-8 judge or some e-Bay troll who says he is a judge. If you are getting some guy telling you via e-bay that he is a judge, force his hand and ask for a name so you can look him up in the V-8 Club roster. Also ask for proof of his statement and ask for the appropriate reference material. Lots of BSers on e-Bay.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:05 PM   #9
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19 Fordy and everyone also. I can't thank you enough. Thanks again ...Joe D
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:06 PM   #10
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If anyone knows anyone looking for a beautiful 1941 Super Deluxe Bisiness Coupe. Send them my way. Thanks.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:14 PM   #11
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Here's all the printed info. on the 1941 Ford from The V-8 ALBUM. Click on photo to enlarge.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:15 PM   #12
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One last piece of info. Click on photo to enlarge.
Your car is truly a black beauty. I wonder if "Ron" is just trying to confuse the issue and beat you down so he can purchase your car at a "steal of a deal" price?
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:16 PM   #13
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Joe, if yours is the black one on eBay, it has all of the Super Deluxe interior features such as the trip odometer, horn ring, vent window cranks and clock. Really a beautiful car.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:53 PM   #14
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Joe, if yours is the black one on eBay, it has all of the Super Deluxe interior features such as the trip odometer, horn ring, vent window cranks and clock. Really a beautiful car.
Speaking of the one on ebay, a really good looking car, there was a post on this awhile back that referenced it, with the ebay item number. I can no longer find the post. Have I missed it, or has it been deleted???
Again, a good-looking car. I would be interested in the documentation that may, or may not have, come with it.
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Old 10-09-2015, 01:24 PM   #15
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Hello everyone,

I need an answer to this question. I have a 1941 SUPER DELUXE ALL ORIGINAL 2 DOOR BUSINESS COUPE.

This car has not been messed with. My question for you is How many 1941 Super Deluxe Business Coupes were made in 41
............ The rear does not slope like a business coupe...........
..............
Thank you for all your help and time. I really need it on this one.
Joe D
Joe, you have me curious. Your first description includes "business coupe". Then later, you post "does not slope like a business coupe".
I'm not trying to debate, just trying to understand. If the rear does not slope like a business coupe, I would assume from another post above, that you have a sedan coupe (long-door). And, has a back seat???
I've looked at the ebay pictures, but can't see enough to determine.
Again, I'm just curious.
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Old 10-09-2015, 01:32 PM   #16
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Good question. I may be wrong, but from the looks of the V-8 ALBUM drawings the "Sedan Coupe" has the chrome strip that fully surrounds both the door windows and the rear 1/4 windows. I do see that chrome on Joe's photos. Perhaps Joe will post a full side view of his vehicle showing the roof line slope. Plus, what we might have here is misuse of the word "business" coupe. Unlike the 1940 Ford coupes, the 1941 Fords didn't have the word "business" affixed to any of their coupe models. At least, that's what I surmise from looking through the V-8 ALBUM.

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Old 10-10-2015, 09:53 AM   #17
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Hi All,
I think you are right to say it is a sedan coupe. The car is on ebay. You can check all the pictures there. Thank all of you for all your imput and help in this matter. It was just the principle to prove this judge wrong. I'd hate to have this guy judging my car.
19fordy. I would like to thank you for going way out of your way to help me in this matter. Everyone in the club is very supportive. Thank you all again...Joe D
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:26 AM   #18
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Joe: THANKS. You are very welcome. Now you have lots of ammo and YOU can be the judge. Hope your car sells.
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If you look at the pictures of the sedan coupe and the coupe look at the measurement from the a pillar to the edge of the door. The 34.83" is for
the coupe and the 43.56" is for the sedan coupe. Coupe uses the same
door as a fordor and the sedan coupe is the same door as a two door
sedan. Hence the slang "short door" coupe(business) and "long door" (club
or sedan coupe). In the 47-8's like I have Ford did call the coupe a "business
coupe" in the sales literature.
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Old 10-10-2015, 02:27 PM   #20
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Ended at 18,250... BIN was 21.9 (I think)
One thing about the auction site, in the fine print for selling cars, there is no obligation for the seller to take the highest bid. As far as I am aware, this rule only applies to selling vehicles.
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