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10-26-2015, 09:10 PM | #41 |
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Re: Mechanical vs. Juice brakes on an A
Just bought some from for my A roadster at NAPA for $20 each
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10-27-2015, 12:05 AM | #42 | |
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IMHO unless you go for cast iron drums and Ted's floaters with properly arced shoes you are not experiencing the best of Model A mechanical brakes. Too bad you cannot fit a set of four disk brakes from a MK II or E-type Jaguar to a Model A. These were the best ever! |
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10-27-2015, 12:53 AM | #43 |
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The mechanical brake dudes sure got a shock when I let them drive my 28 plymouth. They almost busted their nose on the windscreen when stopping.
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10-27-2015, 06:18 AM | #44 |
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I know it is an old thread but I think it is worth mentioning that juice brakes do suffer from corrosion due to long term storage and environmental conditions. Some antique cars tend to sit for a relative long period of time.
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10-27-2015, 08:56 AM | #45 |
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Re: Mechanical vs. Juice brakes on an A
When you have 60 HP at the rear wheels with 1931 A running gear, hydraulic brakes help. Too, when you drive them a lot they don't present any problems.
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10-27-2015, 02:00 PM | #47 |
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10-27-2015, 02:44 PM | #48 |
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That is true, that was a primary reason for buying a model A for me.
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10-28-2015, 11:47 AM | #49 |
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Re: Mechanical vs. Juice brakes on an A
On my Phaeton,I was looking into swapping out the mechanicals for juice brakes.The car is set up at as a pre WW2 era dry lakes car,so doing so would throw the whole look/feel of it.After doing some research,I had decided on a kit from Klings and was ready to purchase it.A friend of mine had bought a semi restored Roadster that he was turning into a hot rod.He gave me all of the mechanical brakes,drums/hubs,everything except new rods.With everything in alot better shape than mine,I spent a weekend swapping them in and giving them a proper adjusting..WOW,what a difference!Needless to say I will be sticking with the mechanicals...
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10-29-2015, 07:57 AM | #50 | |
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10-29-2015, 10:41 AM | #51 |
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10-29-2015, 11:00 AM | #52 |
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Love your Tub Brujo. Some of us West coasters need to put together a race or even a Banger meet or something
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10-29-2015, 12:07 PM | #54 |
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I keep missing the Auburn meet due too other commitments. This year I vow to make it, probably put stock wheels back on my coupe for the race, so I can be competitive . Maybe a beach in Oregon? I'm not sure about their "greeny" laws. I know you can drive on Clam Beach in Humboldt County just north of Arcata. Its a LONG beach too. It might be an option?
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10-29-2015, 10:29 PM | #55 |
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Re: Mechanical vs. Juice brakes on an A
I guess I can add my 2 cents for what its worth.
I see a post about too much HP at the rear wheels that it is a problem for the mechanical braking. This is just from my experience and that is if you go through every detail of the mechanical brakes and a must that you install cast iron drums with the soft woven lining, the car will lock all for wheels with not a lot of pedal pressure and you can almost let go of the steering wheel. I don't know what my HP I have at the rear wheels the engine dyno was close to 100 HP and 175 Ft lb. torque so I would guess 15% to 20% less and the rear wheels, but that is not a problem of stopping the wheels from locking up, it is the skinny tires, if your traveling 65 or 70 miles per hour! and any quick steering maneuver things can get hairy real quick. There simply is not enough rubber contact on the road with the narrow tires. At normal speeds in town or say 45 to 55 there great. The mechanical brakes are great for me I love them there no trouble if the car sits too long, easy to adjust and repair and simple. Just my opinion for what its worth.
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Bill Stipe said:
"I see a post about too much HP at the rear wheels that it is a problem for the mechanical braking." My tongue was deeply in my cheek when I posted that.
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I did try juice brakes when I was just out of High School on the one posted on my avatar and just could not get them right. I had 46 ford rear axle and 41 ford front backing plates and brake drums. it would always pull me in the ditch on the first hard brake and if I pumped them then apply they were better. I had the drums turned, new shoes arced all new wheel cylinders and master. the master was under the floor like the 41. I think I just could not get all the air out would be my guess. didn't know any one with power bleeder at the time that may have helped.
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10-30-2015, 08:20 AM | #58 |
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My own experience with both mechanicals and hydraulics is that I favor mechanicals. Besides, the real stopping power is in the drum and shoe contact. How big? What materials? Equalization? Not the actualization method. I was so happy when my first model A (Town Sedan) had hydraulic brakes installed until I found out exactly what that entails, Rusted lines, stuck cylinders, fluid levels, bad MCs, etc. All the things that one doesn't encounter with mechanicals.
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10-30-2015, 11:13 AM | #60 |
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my model A fordor was bought in 76 has sat from that time. i got it up and running. have not touched the brakes yet. and they will lock on gravel and will put an unsuspecting passenger into the dash if you catch them off gaurd. as long as it has the original drive train i will stick with the mechanicals.
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