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smitty city · 07-13-2015, 01:49 PM

I am working on a 48 flathead six. I read that the starters are the same except the bendix gear is 9 teeth on the six and 10 on the v-8, is this correct? Also I pulled the starter and it has 10 teeth?? It started with the 10 tooth starter so what gives?

Ross F-1 · 07-13-2015, 02:34 PM

Flat 6's use the same starter and drive as the flat V8, 10 tooth.

smitty city · 07-13-2015, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross F-1

Flat 6's use the same starter and drive as the flat V8, 10 tooth.

thank you

amodel25 · 07-14-2015, 03:04 PM

Not sure about '47 and earlier, but '48-'51 sixes use a 9 tooth drive. A 10 tooth will work but wears on the ring gear teeth.

Ross F-1 · 07-14-2015, 05:20 PM

Well, I'm confused. Here's what the Truck Parts shows.

amodel25 · 07-15-2015, 07:35 AM

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Not sure what they mean. My avatar was a 58,000 mile 6 cylinder car when I got it and it had a 9 tooth. I bought an original NOS Ford boxed 9 tooth off e-pay when I had the starter converted to 12 volt. I still have the box at home somewhere. I'll try to find it tonight. I bought a 254 engine complete (not sure what year)and another 226 from a '50 car and they both had 10 tooth drives.

smitty city · 07-15-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by amodel25

Not sure what they mean. My avatar was a 58,000 mile 6 cylinder car when I got it and it had a 9 tooth. I bought an original NOS Ford boxed 9 tooth off e-pay when I had the starter converted to 12 volt. I still have the box at home somewhere. I'll try to find it tonight. I bought a 254 engine complete (not sure what year)and another 226 from a '50 car and they both had 10 tooth drives.

do you guys think the 10 tooth starters in the sixes were replaced incorrectly?

smitty city · 07-15-2015, 02:47 PM

the 48 F1 we are working on has been in the owners family for about 50 years ( they are the second owners), we pulled the starter and it has a 10 tooth gear, but could it be that it was replaced improperly sometime during the first ownership?

DD931 · 07-15-2015, 03:48 PM

The green book is somewhat confusing - see P 496. No mention of later (H-series) sixes. So, I looked in my '48 - '56 truck book(s) and find references that can be interpreted to show both 9 tooth and 10 tooth pinions used in the 226 CI six. I think I would put back what was working. As a rule, Henry didn't change things just for the fun of it and commonly used the same accessories on both 6 and 8.

DD931 · 07-15-2015, 03:52 PM

Sorry to be redundant - what I was looking at is what Ross has shown above (Post #5).

smitty city · 07-15-2015, 05:35 PM

would it help if I counted the number of flywheel teeth?

smitty city · 08-11-2015, 03:11 PM

thanks to all for sharing your knowlege

07-13-2015, 01:49 PM	#1
smitty city Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: north of dayton, ohio Posts: 45	six cylinder starter I am working on a 48 flathead six. I read that the starters are the same except the bendix gear is 9 teeth on the six and 10 on the v-8, is this correct? Also I pulled the starter and it has 10 teeth?? It started with the 10 tooth starter so what gives?

07-13-2015, 02:34 PM	#2
Ross F-1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NM Posts: 2,438	Re: six cylinder starter Flat 6's use the same starter and drive as the flat V8, 10 tooth. __________________ '52 F-1, EAB flathead

07-14-2015, 03:04 PM	#4
amodel25 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Crowley, TX Posts: 328	Re: six cylinder starter Not sure about '47 and earlier, but '48-'51 sixes use a 9 tooth drive. A 10 tooth will work but wears on the ring gear teeth.

07-15-2015, 07:35 AM	#6
amodel25 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Crowley, TX Posts: 328	Re: six cylinder starter Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Not sure what they mean. My avatar was a 58,000 mile 6 cylinder car when I got it and it had a 9 tooth. I bought an original NOS Ford boxed 9 tooth off e-pay when I had the starter converted to 12 volt. I still have the box at home somewhere. I'll try to find it tonight. I bought a 254 engine complete (not sure what year)and another 226 from a '50 car and they both had 10 tooth drives.

07-15-2015, 02:47 PM	#8
smitty city Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: north of dayton, ohio Posts: 45	Re: six cylinder starter the 48 F1 we are working on has been in the owners family for about 50 years ( they are the second owners), we pulled the starter and it has a 10 tooth gear, but could it be that it was replaced improperly sometime during the first ownership?

07-15-2015, 03:48 PM	#9
DD931 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PA Poconos Posts: 723	Re: six cylinder starter The green book is somewhat confusing - see P 496. No mention of later (H-series) sixes. So, I looked in my '48 - '56 truck book(s) and find references that can be interpreted to show both 9 tooth and 10 tooth pinions used in the 226 CI six. I think I would put back what was working. As a rule, Henry didn't change things just for the fun of it and commonly used the same accessories on both 6 and 8.

07-15-2015, 03:52 PM	#10
DD931 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PA Poconos Posts: 723	Re: six cylinder starter Sorry to be redundant - what I was looking at is what Ross has shown above (Post #5).

07-15-2015, 05:35 PM	#11
smitty city Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: north of dayton, ohio Posts: 45	Re: six cylinder starter would it help if I counted the number of flywheel teeth?

08-11-2015, 03:11 PM	#12
smitty city Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: north of dayton, ohio Posts: 45	Re: six cylinder starter thanks to all for sharing your knowlege