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Old 01-12-2013, 12:05 PM   #1
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I have a 29 Phaeton and when I mount the wheel on the rear spare tire carrier the tire just touches the back of the body and if left this way would undoubtedly chafe through the paint. Is this normal or should there be a larger gap between tire and body back. There is on my Town Sedan and also on a friends Tudor. On these cars I can run my fingers between the tire and body ! Do I have the wrong carrier ? Thanks folks, Robert
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:18 PM   #2
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I have a 29 phaeton, but currently it is taken apart as I restore it. I have never had a tire on the bracket. It is about 1/3 done. I very recently had a bad experience with a rear mounted spare bracket for my 28 special coupe with a trunk that is almost finished restoring. I never knew that there was a short bracket used in 1928 for roadsters and coupes with rumble seat only. You guessed it, I had the shorter one I had sandblasted and painted and installed on the car. To my surprised, I couldn't open the trunk! I did have a longer one (about 1 1/4" longer) that needed some work, but will work OK once I repair it. As far as the phaeton spare tire carrier, there are several versions according to the Judging Guidelines. I don't know if they are all the same length or not, but I suspect they are. If you look at page 22-13 of the Judging guidelines maybe you can determine if you have the correct bracket. I believe the tire does come close to the rear panel on all phaetons. I suppose you could shim the top part of the bracket to add more clearance for the tire.

One other item I thought of is: Is you rear panel original or a repro? If it is a repro, the curve might be more than it should be.

I found a picture of a barn find 1929 phaeton I had on my computer and I am putting it in below. I cropped a picture of the car showing the spare tire better. It appears there is about 1" clearance between the tire and the back panel.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:19 PM   #3
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What's your tire size??
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:45 PM   #4
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:13 PM   #5
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The posted photo above is like my brothers car which I restored. Maybe the problem is the wrong tire mount
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:44 PM   #6
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My 28 does not touch. The spare tire carrier is specific to the Pheaton. I will get a pic and some measurements of mine if you need me too.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:47 PM   #7
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Robert,

On our 1929 Phaeton it has a 1" clearance and that is with a tire cover on it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:49 PM   #8
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I have a 29 Phaeton and when I mount the wheel on the rear spare tire carrier the tire just touches the back of the body and if left this way would undoubtedly chafe through the paint. Is this normal or should there be a larger gap between tire and body back. There is on my Town Sedan and also on a friends Tudor. On these cars I can run my fingers between the tire and body ! Do I have the wrong carrier ? Thanks folks, Robert
If you have a copy of the Standards you can determine exactly what you have. All the sedan type carriers are essentially the same dimensionally except possibly the '31 s/w Fordors. It's very unlikely you have one of those. Ford kept improving/strengthening the design as they were commonly bent. It sounds like yours has been bumped as so many others have.
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