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saints · 09-12-2011, 08:27 PM

why did he put all those bolts in the dash rail..... I dont know if anyone has had the pleasure of the nuts rusting up on the little area between the dash and where the window seats but it sucks...... theres like 10 of them and I only was ableto get 4 the rest is seized up.... howdoyou get them if they just spin,you cant stick a wrench around it

saints · 09-12-2011, 09:29 PM

here is the dash

and this is the hard to reach nut

WTSHNN · 09-12-2011, 09:34 PM

I thought the same thing as I tried to hold the tiny nuts in place behind the rear window frame on my '31 Pickup.
-Tim

saints · 09-12-2011, 09:58 PM

I had to heat bend one of my wrench's and still cant get it to break loose.
I dont want to heat them as its right next to the gas tank

Milton · 09-12-2011, 10:45 PM

If I recall correctly, remove the dash and you will have better access to the bolt heads and the square nuts. In fact, if I remember right, you can grind off the heads. It has been a long time ago but I am pretty sure that is how I did it.

james hitchcock · 09-12-2011, 11:50 PM

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I would remove the dash panel. Much easier to get to. I heated mine and soaked them and heated them. Those bolts don't hold the dash rail they hold down the gas tank.

BLACKNRED · 09-13-2011, 03:12 AM

Henry probably did'nt think his cars would get older than he was when he carked it.

80 years of sittin' and you got 4 bolts undone, I reckon that's pretty good.

Be fair, you can't blame the engineering department at Ford.

jw hash · 09-13-2011, 07:26 AM

there is four of bolts that do not have to be removed the filler panel come off with the tank, one on each end and two towards the middle lok under the dash rail and you will see two bolt heads that are up in a hole, if you have a torch heat the nuts a little and put some windex on them they will come off easier,

Steve Plucker · 09-13-2011, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jw hash

there is four of bolts that do not have to be removed the filler panel come off with the tank, one on each end and two towards the middle lok under the dash rail and you will see two bolt heads that are up in a hole, if you have a torch heat the nuts a little and put some windex on them they will come off easier,

JW...A "torch" around a gas tank???? Hope you got insurance!

Pluck

Seth Swoboda · 09-13-2011, 08:19 AM

How about removing the dash rail and using a die grinder? If the tank is empty (and it should be) then put a cut off disc on a die grinder and cut the bolt heads or the nuts off the bolts.

james hitchcock · 09-13-2011, 09:08 AM

I'm sorry when I said heat the bolts I was thinking of my tank which was bone dry for a number of years.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 09-13-2011, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saints

jesus christ on a cracker why did he put all those bolts in the dash rail..... I dont know if anyone has had the pleasure of the nuts rusting up on the little area between the dash and where the window seats but it sucks...... theres like 10 of them and I only was ableto get 4 the rest is seized up.... howdoyou get them if they just spin,you cant stick a wrench around it

Why are you so angry at Jesus and Henry Ford?? Sounds like you don't have the skills or patience to restore an 80 year old, worn out, rusty hulk of a car!!
Refusing to give up is a virtue ONLY up to a point,
Knowing when to give up is the beginning of WISDOM. ( Author unknown )

saints · 09-13-2011, 04:56 PM

well I thought they held the dash on....Ill look again but the screws are out of the dash rail and its not budging
Illget after it again and see how it goes.
sorry for the bad attempt at humor in the first line

saints · 09-13-2011, 05:48 PM

Ok now in the light of day there where 2 screws on the inside of the dash rail and it popped off making it easy to get to the bolt heads....Thanks barners and sorry again if I offended anyone with my blurp

james hitchcock · 09-13-2011, 11:24 PM

No offense. We've all been there done that. You'll get plenty of reply's, it's your job to decide who to listen to. That"s what I like about the Barn you always get plenty of feedback.

norson · 09-13-2011, 11:33 PM

Hey, I'm still trying to figure out "windex". What's that about? Is this something I need to know about? I got out 5 on my rig. Norm

1928Pickuppain · 09-14-2011, 11:35 AM

just use Heat dont worry about blowing up i torch around tanks all the time even welded super close to them. if your realy concerne about it drain it and fill with water prob gone. heat that nut red hot and she'll come off nice and easy. remeber gass is not as unstable as one would like to beleve it lights with ignition and takes a hell of alot of heat to ignight from just tempriture.

BrianBurkert · 09-14-2011, 03:00 PM

Can you just twist (break) the bolts off by overtightening? You'll need to replace them anyway.

09-12-2011, 08:27 PM	#1
saints Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Owasso Ok Posts: 87	WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! why did he put all those bolts in the dash rail..... I dont know if anyone has had the pleasure of the nuts rusting up on the little area between the dash and where the window seats but it sucks...... theres like 10 of them and I only was ableto get 4 the rest is seized up.... howdoyou get them if they just spin,you cant stick a wrench around it __________________ FLATHEAD ADDICT Last edited by saints; 09-13-2011 at 04:53 PM. Reason: cause im a idiot

09-12-2011, 09:29 PM	#2
saints Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Owasso Ok Posts: 87	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! here is the dash and this is the hard to reach nut __________________ FLATHEAD ADDICT

09-12-2011, 09:34 PM	#3
WTSHNN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,413	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! I thought the same thing as I tried to hold the tiny nuts in place behind the rear window frame on my '31 Pickup. -Tim

09-12-2011, 09:58 PM	#4
saints Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Owasso Ok Posts: 87	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! I had to heat bend one of my wrench's and still cant get it to break loose. I dont want to heat them as its right next to the gas tank __________________ FLATHEAD ADDICT

09-12-2011, 10:45 PM	#5
Milton Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 837	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! If I recall correctly, remove the dash and you will have better access to the bolt heads and the square nuts. In fact, if I remember right, you can grind off the heads. It has been a long time ago but I am pretty sure that is how I did it.

09-12-2011, 11:50 PM	#6
james hitchcock Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Visalia Ca. Posts: 617	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I would remove the dash panel. Much easier to get to. I heated mine and soaked them and heated them. Those bolts don't hold the dash rail they hold down the gas tank.

09-13-2011, 03:12 AM	#7
BLACKNRED Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: adelaide australia Posts: 165	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! Henry probably did'nt think his cars would get older than he was when he carked it. 80 years of sittin' and you got 4 bolts undone, I reckon that's pretty good. Be fair, you can't blame the engineering department at Ford.

09-13-2011, 07:26 AM	#8
jw hash Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn Washington Posts: 2,552	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! there is four of bolts that do not have to be removed the filler panel come off with the tank, one on each end and two towards the middle lok under the dash rail and you will see two bolt heads that are up in a hole, if you have a torch heat the nuts a little and put some windex on them they will come off easier,

09-13-2011, 08:19 AM	#10
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 3,795	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! How about removing the dash rail and using a die grinder? If the tank is empty (and it should be) then put a cut off disc on a die grinder and cut the bolt heads or the nuts off the bolts.

09-13-2011, 09:08 AM	#11
james hitchcock Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Visalia Ca. Posts: 617	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! I'm sorry when I said heat the bolts I was thinking of my tank which was bone dry for a number of years.

09-13-2011, 04:56 PM	#13
saints Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Owasso Ok Posts: 87	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! well I thought they held the dash on....Ill look again but the screws are out of the dash rail and its not budging Illget after it again and see how it goes. sorry for the bad attempt at humor in the first line __________________ FLATHEAD ADDICT

09-13-2011, 05:48 PM	#14
saints Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Owasso Ok Posts: 87	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! Ok now in the light of day there where 2 screws on the inside of the dash rail and it popped off making it easy to get to the bolt heads....Thanks barners and sorry again if I offended anyone with my blurp __________________ FLATHEAD ADDICT

09-13-2011, 11:24 PM	#15
james hitchcock Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Visalia Ca. Posts: 617	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! No offense. We've all been there done that. You'll get plenty of reply's, it's your job to decide who to listen to. That"s what I like about the Barn you always get plenty of feedback.

09-13-2011, 11:33 PM	#16
norson Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 50	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! Hey, I'm still trying to figure out "windex". What's that about? Is this something I need to know about? I got out 5 on my rig. Norm

09-14-2011, 11:35 AM	#17
1928Pickuppain Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Billerica, Ma Posts: 461	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! just use Heat dont worry about blowing up i torch around tanks all the time even welded super close to them. if your realy concerne about it drain it and fill with water prob gone. heat that nut red hot and she'll come off nice and easy. remeber gass is not as unstable as one would like to beleve it lights with ignition and takes a hell of alot of heat to ignight from just tempriture.

09-14-2011, 03:00 PM	#18
BrianBurkert Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fleetwood, PA Posts: 420	Re: WHYYY henry ford WHHHYYYY!!!!!!!!!! Can you just twist (break) the bolts off by overtightening? You'll need to replace them anyway.