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str8axle63 · 03-22-2018, 07:09 PM

I recently bought this 1942 Ford Marmon Herrington. I never heard of the MH before I bought it.
; I just like the truck. .,The truck appears to be in original condition, all the all wheel drive train is there. The motor is flat head 8 cyl. I'm trying to get some info on it.
Is it valuable because its an MH ,compaired to a Stock Ford
Does the engine have numbers on it where I can check if its original
It has a "war department" stamped on a plate inside the truck, were these government trucks
Any info would be much appreciated
Thank you
I tried to post pictures but not sure if it worked, new guy to the forum

Charlie ny · 03-22-2018, 07:28 PM

Call Chuck Mantiglia in Conn. 203 287 9830........Chuck is CHUCKS TRUCKS......he has
MH Fords hanging from his ceiling. You are not that far away.
Charlie ny

GB SISSON · 03-22-2018, 07:42 PM

Is it a big truck or a pickup? What is the wheelbase and wheel size? Please work on those photos! And welcome to the Barn.

JSeery · 03-22-2018, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by str8axle63

I tried to post pictures but not sure if it worked, new guy to the forum

Welcome to the Barn! If you need help post your photos I can post them for you if you want. email them to me [email protected]

JSeery · 03-22-2018, 10:03 PM

Photos posted for str8axle63:

expavr · 03-22-2018, 10:51 PM

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You have a what is called a “big” truck. Judging by the photos it looks to have a 135” WB and the info on the plate suggests at least 2 tons GVW. The plow brackets and the info on the manufacturers plate suggests it was used either by a municipality or the military for road maintenance. The MH drivetrain coupled to the fact that there weren’t many vehicles available in 1942 for other than military use makes your truck a rare bird with some historical value. Is there any indication that it might have had a dump bed on it? Is there a lever in the cab next to the shifter connected to a PTO on the transmission? Nice find..!!!

Newc · 03-22-2018, 11:46 PM

Wow; Do Not lose those data plates! Is that Olive drab under the highway orange? Even the brush guard is special. I also see the M+H badges? Visit the MVPA site... Military Vehicle Preservation Association. That truck lives in two 'worlds'. Newc

40 Deluxe · 03-23-2018, 12:02 AM

From the data plate this looks to have been equipped with a snow blower with its own engine mounted on the rear. Notice that there are two columns of data; the left one for the "Snogo" (notice maximum RPM of 1800, the flathead under the hood would be around 3600 RPM), and the right one for the truck chassis.

ford35lh · 03-23-2018, 12:08 AM

I think the info on the left side of the ID plate indicates it had
a Snowgo snowblower mounted on it.
If it is military there is a good chance it was built for use
on a military airfield that received a lot of snow.

expavr · 03-23-2018, 12:14 AM

Attached is a photo of the Snogo LTR blower in action.
http://yankeeairmuseum.org/restoration/snogo.shtml
Find the rest of the blower hardware and you can pay for the restoration by renting the truck for snow removal.

expavr · 03-23-2018, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by expavr

Attached is a photo of the Snogo LTR blower in action.
http://yankeeairmuseum.org/restoration/snogo.shtml
Find the rest of the blower hardware and you can pay for the restoration by renting the truck for snow removal.

Scroll down that attachment and you’ll find some additional detail about how your truck was originally setup.

mercman from oz · 03-23-2018, 01:19 AM

This LHD 1942 Ford with Marmon-Herrington conversion, with Snow Plow attached, was seen in Tasmania a few years back. It looks similar to the one that you have.
By the way, Cliff Heeling, of Watertown, Minn. (Editor of the 1933-1934 Ford Restoration Book) owns a similar Ford snow plow.

mercman from oz · 03-23-2018, 01:20 AM

Here is a picture of a Heavy Duty Ford with Marmon-Herrington conversion.

mercman from oz · 03-23-2018, 01:23 AM

Here is a larger picture of your Ford with the Marmon-Herrington conversion. Notice how it has similar lights to the example seen in Tasmania mounted on the roof?

51 MERC-CT · 03-23-2018, 06:57 AM

Snogo's clearing for landing.

rotorwrench · 03-23-2018, 07:48 AM

That is a modified Ford G8T 1 1/2-ton military truck. Marmon Herrington was the go to company for 4-wheel drive or all wheel drive vehicles. Few companies manufactured there own 4-wheel drive vehicles in that era. MH stepped up to the plate to provide conversions for all sorts of vehicles both here in the US and in Canada.

Another company was contracted to put the snow removal equipment on.

I drove a 1974 Ford 1-ton pickup/fuel truck that had an MH conversion back when I was chasing the seismograph crews through the rocky mountains. The rear axle & springs were heavy duty but the front 4-wheel drive axle & springs were lighter duty on that rig. I had problems with it. Ford was making there own 4X4 vehicles around that time frame but MH still modifies specialty vehicles for AWD but they are mostly larger trucks now days.

36Bill · 03-23-2018, 08:07 AM

Here is the info at the bottom of the link above. This is a rare truck if I read this right.

1942 Ford / Marmon Herrington SNOGO
Built on a 1942 Ford 1 1/2 ton commercial chassis converted to all wheel drive by Marmon Herrington, model number KMM5-4, serial number 472367, the truck was delivered to Klauer Mfg in Dubois Iowa on December 3 1941.

On January 27, 1943, SNOGO unit model LTR, serial number 1086, powered by an International Harvester IGC U-21 engine, serial number UH3311Z1 was fitted to the chassis. The truck was then delivered to the Ford Willow Run Bomber plant on June 16th 1943 where it was assigned the Defense Plant Corporation number of MI-4862-A3.

This unit continued to operate in front line snow removal service until 1970 when it was moved to backup status along with one of the other original 6 machines, the fate of the other four is unknown.

In 1982, this unit, along with one other was sold to the Ann Arbor Airport where they served as front line units once again, apparently well into the 1990�s.

In August 2006, SNOGO 1086 returned home to Willow Run when the Ann Arbor Airport donated it to the Yankee Air Museum. The Yankee Air Museum has contracted with Ron Leatherman of Military Repair & Restoration Inc. (www.mv-restoration.com)

GB SISSON · 03-23-2018, 09:09 AM

I think it may have a civilian cab as the military cab had a swing out windshield with top mounted wipers. The G8T also had a six, which may have been swapped out over the years of course. This will be a very low geared truck so don't expect much hiway speed! It is a very cool vehicle and you are fortunate to have found it!

cas3 · 03-23-2018, 10:51 AM

orange trucks were usually state hwy dept. around here any way

Vintage Copper 47 · 03-23-2018, 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=rotorwrench;1608566]That is a modified Ford G8T 1 1/2-ton military truck. Marmon Herrington was the go to company for 4-wheel drive or all wheel drive vehicles. Few companies manufactured there own 4-wheel drive vehicles in that era. MH stepped up to the plate to provide conversions for all sorts of vehicles both here in the US and in Canada.

Although FORD made the GTB aka Burma Jeep for the Military, the truck he has strictly remained in the U.S. compared to the rockwell axle 4WDs - Chevys, GMCs, IHs, and Ford GTBs, GPWs, GPAs.. still a cool find!

03-22-2018, 07:09 PM	#1
str8axle63 Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: long Island NY Posts: 63	1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed I recently bought this 1942 Ford Marmon Herrington. I never heard of the MH before I bought it. ; I just like the truck. .,The truck appears to be in original condition, all the all wheel drive train is there. The motor is flat head 8 cyl. I'm trying to get some info on it. Is it valuable because its an MH ,compaired to a Stock Ford Does the engine have numbers on it where I can check if its original It has a "war department" stamped on a plate inside the truck, were these government trucks Any info would be much appreciated Thank you I tried to post pictures but not sure if it worked, new guy to the forum Last edited by str8axle63; 03-22-2018 at 07:20 PM. Reason: pictures

03-22-2018, 07:28 PM	#2
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed Call Chuck Mantiglia in Conn. 203 287 9830........Chuck is CHUCKS TRUCKS......he has MH Fords hanging from his ceiling. You are not that far away. Charlie ny

03-22-2018, 07:42 PM	#3
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,965	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed Is it a big truck or a pickup? What is the wheelbase and wheel size? Please work on those photos! And welcome to the Barn. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

03-22-2018, 10:51 PM	#6
expavr Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hansville, WA Posts: 776	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) You have a what is called a “big” truck. Judging by the photos it looks to have a 135” WB and the info on the plate suggests at least 2 tons GVW. The plow brackets and the info on the manufacturers plate suggests it was used either by a municipality or the military for road maintenance. The MH drivetrain coupled to the fact that there weren’t many vehicles available in 1942 for other than military use makes your truck a rare bird with some historical value. Is there any indication that it might have had a dump bed on it? Is there a lever in the cab next to the shifter connected to a PTO on the transmission? Nice find..!!!

03-22-2018, 11:46 PM	#7
Newc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,495	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed Wow; Do Not lose those data plates! Is that Olive drab under the highway orange? Even the brush guard is special. I also see the M+H badges? Visit the MVPA site... Military Vehicle Preservation Association. That truck lives in two 'worlds'. Newc

03-23-2018, 12:02 AM	#8
40 Deluxe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: now Kuna, Idaho Posts: 3,781	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed From the data plate this looks to have been equipped with a snow blower with its own engine mounted on the rear. Notice that there are two columns of data; the left one for the "Snogo" (notice maximum RPM of 1800, the flathead under the hood would be around 3600 RPM), and the right one for the truck chassis.

03-23-2018, 12:08 AM	#9
ford35lh Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Upstate; The Real New York Posts: 444	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed I think the info on the left side of the ID plate indicates it had a Snowgo snowblower mounted on it. If it is military there is a good chance it was built for use on a military airfield that received a lot of snow.

03-23-2018, 12:14 AM	#10
expavr Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hansville, WA Posts: 776	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed Attached is a photo of the Snogo LTR blower in action. http://yankeeairmuseum.org/restoration/snogo.shtml Find the rest of the blower hardware and you can pay for the restoration by renting the truck for snow removal.

03-23-2018, 01:19 AM	#12
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,377	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed This LHD 1942 Ford with Marmon-Herrington conversion, with Snow Plow attached, was seen in Tasmania a few years back. It looks similar to the one that you have. By the way, Cliff Heeling, of Watertown, Minn. (Editor of the 1933-1934 Ford Restoration Book) owns a similar Ford snow plow.

03-23-2018, 01:20 AM	#13
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,377	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed Here is a picture of a Heavy Duty Ford with Marmon-Herrington conversion.

03-23-2018, 01:23 AM	#14
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,377	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed Here is a larger picture of your Ford with the Marmon-Herrington conversion. Notice how it has similar lights to the example seen in Tasmania mounted on the roof?

03-23-2018, 07:48 AM	#16
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,451	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed That is a modified Ford G8T 1 1/2-ton military truck. Marmon Herrington was the go to company for 4-wheel drive or all wheel drive vehicles. Few companies manufactured there own 4-wheel drive vehicles in that era. MH stepped up to the plate to provide conversions for all sorts of vehicles both here in the US and in Canada. Another company was contracted to put the snow removal equipment on. I drove a 1974 Ford 1-ton pickup/fuel truck that had an MH conversion back when I was chasing the seismograph crews through the rocky mountains. The rear axle & springs were heavy duty but the front 4-wheel drive axle & springs were lighter duty on that rig. I had problems with it. Ford was making there own 4X4 vehicles around that time frame but MH still modifies specialty vehicles for AWD but they are mostly larger trucks now days. Last edited by rotorwrench; 03-23-2018 at 07:59 AM.

03-23-2018, 08:07 AM	#17
36Bill Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 315	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed Here is the info at the bottom of the link above. This is a rare truck if I read this right. 1942 Ford / Marmon Herrington SNOGO Built on a 1942 Ford 1 1/2 ton commercial chassis converted to all wheel drive by Marmon Herrington, model number KMM5-4, serial number 472367, the truck was delivered to Klauer Mfg in Dubois Iowa on December 3 1941. On January 27, 1943, SNOGO unit model LTR, serial number 1086, powered by an International Harvester IGC U-21 engine, serial number UH3311Z1 was fitted to the chassis. The truck was then delivered to the Ford Willow Run Bomber plant on June 16th 1943 where it was assigned the Defense Plant Corporation number of MI-4862-A3. This unit continued to operate in front line snow removal service until 1970 when it was moved to backup status along with one of the other original 6 machines, the fate of the other four is unknown. In 1982, this unit, along with one other was sold to the Ann Arbor Airport where they served as front line units once again, apparently well into the 1990�s. In August 2006, SNOGO 1086 returned home to Willow Run when the Ann Arbor Airport donated it to the Yankee Air Museum. The Yankee Air Museum has contracted with Ron Leatherman of Military Repair & Restoration Inc. (www.mv-restoration.com) __________________ The best way to have a friend is to be a friend. Howdy Doody

03-23-2018, 09:09 AM	#18
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,965	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed I think it may have a civilian cab as the military cab had a swing out windshield with top mounted wipers. The G8T also had a six, which may have been swapped out over the years of course. This will be a very low geared truck so don't expect much hiway speed! It is a very cool vehicle and you are fortunate to have found it! __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

03-23-2018, 10:51 AM	#19
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,583	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed orange trucks were usually state hwy dept. around here any way

03-23-2018, 10:51 AM	#20
Vintage Copper 47 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: The sleepy San Fernando Valley Posts: 394	Re: 1942 Ford Marmon-Herrington info needed [QUOTE=rotorwrench;1608566]That is a modified Ford G8T 1 1/2-ton military truck. Marmon Herrington was the go to company for 4-wheel drive or all wheel drive vehicles. Few companies manufactured there own 4-wheel drive vehicles in that era. MH stepped up to the plate to provide conversions for all sorts of vehicles both here in the US and in Canada. Although FORD made the GTB aka Burma Jeep for the Military, the truck he has strictly remained in the U.S. compared to the rockwell axle 4WDs - Chevys, GMCs, IHs, and Ford GTBs, GPWs, GPAs.. still a cool find! __________________ WALT "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". "Old enough for the experience & too young to know better"