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39portlander · 10-24-2014, 07:22 PM

Would like some input, if any one is or has used the TP Showtime 90 turbine unit. I am looking to get away from the rattle cans and a little more sophisticated

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Have to paint that nice bed I got from Northern classic truck. Any input would be great. Scott

wamnram · 10-24-2014, 07:37 PM

I have one and and use it only occasionally. For what it's worth, and this is just my experience as an amateur hobbyist, we're I to purchase another unit I would spend a little extra and get a better unit, especially the spray gun itself. With the TP unit, if everything is just right I can lay down paint like glass. Normally I get a small amount of orange peel, but I usually spray base coat/clear coat systems so I can wet sand and buff to fix. The TP units are good, not cheap junk, and with practice will do a good job. For the serious painter you would probably want a better unit.

Tinker · 10-24-2014, 07:54 PM

Just my thought. Paint is prep first. Then to odd as it seems the air setup is more important then the gun. Filters to get rid of water in the line is important. Surprising for much water gets into the air system. The bigger the air system the less you have to worry about it.

Kurt in NJ · 10-24-2014, 08:34 PM

My father bought one many yearts ago, it worked pretty good in the beginning, it did get warm--almost hot after a few cups of paint -----then it got loaned out, never was the same again---I think it was used for latex paint
I did find a new use for the "compresser", hook up to garden hose and put up the back of the sandblast hood---if hot out coil a few turns of the hose in a tub of ice water, you still need the respirator though

I painted my car with a speedy sprayer diaphram compresser set---it worked good enough

Bored&Stroked · 10-24-2014, 11:01 PM

Like anything else, the 'paint equipment business' has many levels of products, capabilities and costs. You need to decide how much of this you're going to do over the next XXX years. If you're like me - probably quite a bit.

So, the biggest investment will be a good compressor, associated water filters, etc.. Once you have that, then a whole host of air tools and spray equipment comes into the picture. There are some pretty decent HVLP guns available in the range of $150 - $300 . . . you'll be so glad you spent the money on them. I have a lot of high-end stuff ($600 guns) and some of the lower end.

For the money, you can't go wrong with the Devilbiss 'Finishline' series of guns - probably mid-range, but very capable equipment. I think I paid about $350 for a two-gun kit (large gun and touch-up gun). I have a few different tip/nozzle sizes - some for primer, some for base, some for clear. Truth be told, I use this equipment more that my high-end Sata stuff . . . for routine work. When it comes to a complete paint job - then I bring in the 'Big Dogs'!

Compressor first . . . clean air . . . mid-range gun . . . you'll love it!

B&S

quickchange34 · 10-24-2014, 11:29 PM

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Don't waste your money take the advise of Bored&Stroked and get a good compressor, decent gun, filters for clean air.

Ken Crans · 10-25-2014, 10:02 AM

If it's worth to you 39, if you do alot of paint jobs..yes invest in all the good stuff.If just doing it ocasionally,try the TP unit. I have been painting for 40 years and used all different systems including the TP. you get what you pay for. and equipment. the TP unit is good and they have updated the spray guns. Good luck

39portlander · 10-25-2014, 06:08 PM

Thanks for the input guys. I am the "occasional painter" for what the TP system claims, quick-efficient and less overspray of conventional paint guns, will let the Fordbarn know how I make out.

TomO · 10-26-2014, 11:21 AM

If you already have a 5hp compressor, I would ho with the Devilbiss Finish Line guns. They are great for the occasional painter. If you do not have the compressor, think about buying one as they have many uses besides painting. The turbine systems do not have other uses and are not as user friendly as the Devillbiss guns.

supereal · 10-26-2014, 01:26 PM

I always farm out the paint jobs. One prerequisite for successful automobile painting is a properly ventilated booth. This insures less airborne dirt will mar the finished results. For the occasional painter, it doesn't make much sense to buy a suitable compressor, air dryer, and guns for one or two uses. The painter we use has us remove the fenders, hood, trim, etc, before bringing it in, to contain labor costs. He knows how to mix paint with additives to prevent "fish eyes" caused by silicone embedded in the surface of most vintage vehicles. Given the very high cost for materials, it isn't a DIY job anymore.

10-24-2014, 07:22 PM	#1
39portlander Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suth'N Maine Posts: 1,996	HVLP paint spray system... Would like some input, if any one is or has used the TP Showtime 90 turbine unit. I am looking to get away from the rattle cans and a little more sophisticated. Have to paint that nice bed I got from Northern classic truck. Any input would be great. Scott

10-24-2014, 07:37 PM	#2
wamnram Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Tan Valley, Arizona Posts: 211	Re: HVLP paint spray system... I have one and and use it only occasionally. For what it's worth, and this is just my experience as an amateur hobbyist, we're I to purchase another unit I would spend a little extra and get a better unit, especially the spray gun itself. With the TP unit, if everything is just right I can lay down paint like glass. Normally I get a small amount of orange peel, but I usually spray base coat/clear coat systems so I can wet sand and buff to fix. The TP units are good, not cheap junk, and with practice will do a good job. For the serious painter you would probably want a better unit. __________________ Wayne

10-24-2014, 07:54 PM	#3
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: HVLP paint spray system... Just my thought. Paint is prep first. Then to odd as it seems the air setup is more important then the gun. Filters to get rid of water in the line is important. Surprising for much water gets into the air system. The bigger the air system the less you have to worry about it.

10-24-2014, 08:34 PM	#4
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: HVLP paint spray system... My father bought one many yearts ago, it worked pretty good in the beginning, it did get warm--almost hot after a few cups of paint -----then it got loaned out, never was the same again---I think it was used for latex paint I did find a new use for the "compresser", hook up to garden hose and put up the back of the sandblast hood---if hot out coil a few turns of the hose in a tub of ice water, you still need the respirator though I painted my car with a speedy sprayer diaphram compresser set---it worked good enough

10-24-2014, 11:01 PM	#5
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,068	Re: HVLP paint spray system... Like anything else, the 'paint equipment business' has many levels of products, capabilities and costs. You need to decide how much of this you're going to do over the next XXX years. If you're like me - probably quite a bit. So, the biggest investment will be a good compressor, associated water filters, etc.. Once you have that, then a whole host of air tools and spray equipment comes into the picture. There are some pretty decent HVLP guns available in the range of $150 - $300 . . . you'll be so glad you spent the money on them. I have a lot of high-end stuff ($600 guns) and some of the lower end. For the money, you can't go wrong with the Devilbiss 'Finishline' series of guns - probably mid-range, but very capable equipment. I think I paid about $350 for a two-gun kit (large gun and touch-up gun). I have a few different tip/nozzle sizes - some for primer, some for base, some for clear. Truth be told, I use this equipment more that my high-end Sata stuff . . . for routine work. When it comes to a complete paint job - then I bring in the 'Big Dogs'! Compressor first . . . clean air . . . mid-range gun . . . you'll love it! B&S

10-24-2014, 11:29 PM	#6
quickchange34 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: charlottesville, Va. Posts: 589	Re: HVLP paint spray system... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Don't waste your money take the advise of Bored&Stroked and get a good compressor, decent gun, filters for clean air.

10-25-2014, 10:02 AM	#7
Ken Crans Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Highland,MI Posts: 1,196	Re: HVLP paint spray system... If it's worth to you 39, if you do alot of paint jobs..yes invest in all the good stuff.If just doing it ocasionally,try the TP unit. I have been painting for 40 years and used all different systems including the TP. you get what you pay for. and equipment. the TP unit is good and they have updated the spray guns. Good luck

10-25-2014, 06:08 PM	#8
39portlander Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suth'N Maine Posts: 1,996	Re: HVLP paint spray system... Thanks for the input guys. I am the "occasional painter" for what the TP system claims, quick-efficient and less overspray of conventional paint guns, will let the Fordbarn know how I make out.

10-26-2014, 11:21 AM	#9
TomO Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 362	Re: HVLP paint spray system... If you already have a 5hp compressor, I would ho with the Devilbiss Finish Line guns. They are great for the occasional painter. If you do not have the compressor, think about buying one as they have many uses besides painting. The turbine systems do not have other uses and are not as user friendly as the Devillbiss guns. __________________ TomO

10-26-2014, 01:26 PM	#10
supereal Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	Re: HVLP paint spray system... I always farm out the paint jobs. One prerequisite for successful automobile painting is a properly ventilated booth. This insures less airborne dirt will mar the finished results. For the occasional painter, it doesn't make much sense to buy a suitable compressor, air dryer, and guns for one or two uses. The painter we use has us remove the fenders, hood, trim, etc, before bringing it in, to contain labor costs. He knows how to mix paint with additives to prevent "fish eyes" caused by silicone embedded in the surface of most vintage vehicles. Given the very high cost for materials, it isn't a DIY job anymore.