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oldbugger · 12-19-2012, 03:43 PM

Just finished the floor and put on the scuff plate, looks good but the door don't have enough room to close, only goes on first latch. Door closes good without the scuff plate. Anyone else had this problem? Thanks in advance.

ken ct · 12-19-2012, 03:58 PM

Myguess its a repop one. ken ct

DavidG · 12-19-2012, 04:35 PM

They appear to be the Dennis Carpenter reproductions, which I used on a phaeton without door closure issues.

trainguy · 12-19-2012, 04:37 PM

Do you have a rubber seal on the bottom of the door?Maybe it is to thick.

oldbugger · 12-19-2012, 04:46 PM

I do have the rubber seal on the bottom of the door, which seemed thick when I insalled it, and some thin foam built into my door panels. It is probably just a combination of errors. Thanks for your thoughts. Paul

john worden · 12-19-2012, 05:08 PM

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DICK SPADARO · 12-19-2012, 05:39 PM

Show a picture of the door upholstery in thew area of the door jamb and rocker. Most closure issues are from too much upholstery in that area.

john worden · 12-19-2012, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DICK SPADARO

Show a picture of the door upholstery in thew area of the door jamb and rocker. Most closure issues are from too much upholstery in that area.

....or floors welded in without first fitting ALL the adjoining parts.
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oldbugger · 12-19-2012, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DICK SPADARO

Show a picture of the door upholstery in thew area of the door jamb and rocker. Most closure issues are from too much upholstery in that area.

Thanks Dick, I think that is the issue, between upolstery and the new rubber seal. The floor has not been replaced so that is not the problem. Thanks

Kube · 12-19-2012, 08:39 PM

I have found the rubber on both the 39 and 40 seals is too rigid and not formed quite as the originals. It takes time to get them (39 & 40) to relax enough for the door to close properly. I have gotton in the habit to acquire these very early in a restoration process, affix them to a board in the "relaxed" position I want them to be in when I eventually install them. That system has helped a lot. I also apply heat to them when I think of it.

48-710 · 12-19-2012, 09:20 PM

On the question of scuff plates,does anyone in the US repair/restore the original zinc '35 ones?
Thanks,Gary

jfcrash · 12-20-2012, 03:01 PM

Looking at your pictures, it doesn’t look as though your scuff plates are seated all the way down, it seems that part of the painted rocker panel is showing below the scuff plate.

Are you using them to hold down the carpet making them sit higher and interfering with the door panel?

Just a thought, Jim

oldbugger · 12-20-2012, 03:34 PM

Thanks, Jim I think your on to something, they don't seem to be all the way down. Paul

Bob/Pa · 12-21-2012, 11:24 AM

If there down all the way the mounting holes will line up, if that is ok then the door panels are causing the problem. I'm using repo's and holding an edge of carpet and had no problems.

Graeme / New Zealand · 12-21-2012, 11:20 PM

I've just installed the scuffs with the rubber seal on my 48. Its a tight fit without the door panel. I will ensure the bloke who is going to do my uphosltry doesn't overdo the padding on them.

GB

12-19-2012, 03:58 PM	#2
ken ct BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: stratford,ct Posts: 5,971	Re: Scuff plates Myguess its a repop one. ken ct

12-19-2012, 04:35 PM	#3
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,118	Re: Scuff plates They appear to be the Dennis Carpenter reproductions, which I used on a phaeton without door closure issues.

12-19-2012, 04:37 PM	#4
trainguy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lehighton Pa Posts: 1,085	Re: Scuff plates Do you have a rubber seal on the bottom of the door?Maybe it is to thick.

12-19-2012, 04:46 PM	#5
oldbugger Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Holland Mi Posts: 647	Re: Scuff plates I do have the rubber seal on the bottom of the door, which seemed thick when I insalled it, and some thin foam built into my door panels. It is probably just a combination of errors. Thanks for your thoughts. Paul

12-19-2012, 05:08 PM	#6
john worden Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: central Iowa Posts: 484	Re: Scuff plates Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) What does "finish the floor" include? john __________________ Louvering, bias ply tire-truing, metal shaping and forming, lathe and mill work, member shop HAGERTY Ins. expert repair network. High quality paint work in Iowa.

12-19-2012, 05:39 PM	#7
DICK SPADARO Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Altamont, NY Posts: 1,004	Re: Scuff plates Show a picture of the door upholstery in thew area of the door jamb and rocker. Most closure issues are from too much upholstery in that area. __________________ dickspadaro.com

12-19-2012, 08:39 PM	#10
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,042	Re: Scuff plates I have found the rubber on both the 39 and 40 seals is too rigid and not formed quite as the originals. It takes time to get them (39 & 40) to relax enough for the door to close properly. I have gotton in the habit to acquire these very early in a restoration process, affix them to a board in the "relaxed" position I want them to be in when I eventually install them. That system has helped a lot. I also apply heat to them when I think of it. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

12-19-2012, 09:20 PM	#11
48-710 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mildura ,Australia Posts: 163	Re: Scuff plates On the question of scuff plates,does anyone in the US repair/restore the original zinc '35 ones? Thanks,Gary

12-20-2012, 03:01 PM	#12
jfcrash Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Western NY Posts: 170	Re: Scuff plates Looking at your pictures, it doesn’t look as though your scuff plates are seated all the way down, it seems that part of the painted rocker panel is showing below the scuff plate. Are you using them to hold down the carpet making them sit higher and interfering with the door panel? Just a thought, Jim __________________ ______________________________________________ jfc I couldn't repair the brakes, so I adjusted the horn louder....

12-20-2012, 03:34 PM	#13
oldbugger Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Holland Mi Posts: 647	Re: Scuff plates Thanks, Jim I think your on to something, they don't seem to be all the way down. Paul

12-21-2012, 11:24 AM	#14
Bob/Pa Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oakmont, Pa (Longwood) Posts: 297	Re: Scuff plates If there down all the way the mounting holes will line up, if that is ok then the door panels are causing the problem. I'm using repo's and holding an edge of carpet and had no problems.

12-21-2012, 11:20 PM	#15
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,127	Re: Scuff plates I've just installed the scuffs with the rubber seal on my 48. Its a tight fit without the door panel. I will ensure the bloke who is going to do my uphosltry doesn't overdo the padding on them. GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sh*t" "You're a long time looking at the lid"