The Ford Barn

Gary · 12-01-2015, 09:39 PM

Barners a little help please, I cant get the pedal assembly to sit flush on the frame rail, do I need to remove both pedals then re-install with the snap rings. Thanks for any answers

Lawson Cox · 12-01-2015, 10:26 PM

Are you installing a different pedal assembly in a 40 pickup, or 40 pedals in some other frame? You are not clear with your question. Please rephrase.

Gary · 12-02-2015, 02:14 AM

No Lawson, I'm installing 40 pedals on the stock 40 pick up frame, curious if I need to remove the pedals, bolt the bracket on the frame then install the pedals on the shaft and clip on the retainers. In other words I need to remove the pedals ?
Thanks

TJ · 12-02-2015, 10:14 AM

As I recall there is a rolled lip surrounding the pedal opening in the frame. You can't get the bracket to sit flush due to the brake pedal interfering with the rolled lip. You should only have to remove the brake pedal.

Gary · 12-02-2015, 11:22 AM

Thanks TJ I already removed the clutch arm , no big deal to pull the brake snap ring. It just wouldn't set flush. Luckily the floors are toast so I can get at this easy

Kube · 12-02-2015, 11:56 AM

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You may remove and install the entire assembly in whole. I have done it numerous times. In fact - just the other day.

Rolled lip? Wrong side of frame.

Gary · 12-02-2015, 12:06 PM

Kube, what is the trick then

TJ · 12-02-2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube

You may remove and install the entire assembly in whole. I have done it numerous times. In fact - just the other day.

Rolled lip? Wrong side of frame.

Yes the rolled lip is on the inside of the frame. It can interfere with installing the pedals if the floorboards are in the car. That's why I said to remove the brake pedal so it doesn't catch on the inside rolled lip.

Kube · 12-02-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary

Kube, what is the trick then

Trick? No trick... in fact a pain in the butt each time. However, it can be done.

JSeery · 12-02-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ

Yes the rolled lip is on the inside of the frame. It can interfere with installing the pedals if the floorboards are in the car. That's why I said to remove the brake pedal so it doesn't catch on the inside rolled lip.

LOL, never heard the frame shape itself called a rolled lip. The comment is clear now, thanks for the explanation. Think the frame rails are stamped, but rolled lip will do!

Gary · 12-03-2015, 10:57 AM

JT, I have not installed the wood below the cab, this will make a clearance issue I'm sure. It is just sitting on the frame rail now. I appreciate the help. I have the wood just need to install it. Work in progress.
Thanks to all for any help or suggestions.

Kube · 12-03-2015, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary

JT, I have not installed the wood below the cab, this will make a clearance issue I'm sure. It is just sitting on the frame rail now. I appreciate the help. I have the wood just need to install it. Work in progress.
Thanks to all for any help or suggestions.

Hmmm... I did not realize the cab is sitting directly on the rails. I am betting that will make the installation impossible. Even with the cab sitting properly, it is a challenge. A doable challenge indeed but still, a challenge.

JSeery · 12-03-2015, 12:20 PM

How difficult would it be to raise the cab up on blocks to provide a little clearance?

JonC · 12-03-2015, 01:43 PM

I am pretty sure I put my pedals in (40 PU) before the cab was on. I thought that the floor board had a metal plate that you installed after you had the cab on the frame. I don't seem to remember any issue with them, but I could be wrong. I think you will need to raise the cab up to get it right.

12-01-2015, 09:39 PM	#1
Gary Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Emeryville, near Oakland and the Sf Bay Bridge Posts: 133	Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up Barners a little help please, I cant get the pedal assembly to sit flush on the frame rail, do I need to remove both pedals then re-install with the snap rings. Thanks for any answers

12-01-2015, 10:26 PM	#2
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up Are you installing a different pedal assembly in a 40 pickup, or 40 pedals in some other frame? You are not clear with your question. Please rephrase. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

12-02-2015, 02:14 AM	#3
Gary Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Emeryville, near Oakland and the Sf Bay Bridge Posts: 133	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up No Lawson, I'm installing 40 pedals on the stock 40 pick up frame, curious if I need to remove the pedals, bolt the bracket on the frame then install the pedals on the shaft and clip on the retainers. In other words I need to remove the pedals ? Thanks

12-02-2015, 10:14 AM	#4
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,037	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up As I recall there is a rolled lip surrounding the pedal opening in the frame. You can't get the bracket to sit flush due to the brake pedal interfering with the rolled lip. You should only have to remove the brake pedal.

12-02-2015, 11:22 AM	#5
Gary Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Emeryville, near Oakland and the Sf Bay Bridge Posts: 133	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up Thanks TJ I already removed the clutch arm , no big deal to pull the brake snap ring. It just wouldn't set flush. Luckily the floors are toast so I can get at this easy

12-02-2015, 11:56 AM	#6
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,016	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) You may remove and install the entire assembly in whole. I have done it numerous times. In fact - just the other day. Rolled lip? Wrong side of frame. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

12-02-2015, 12:06 PM	#7
Gary Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Emeryville, near Oakland and the Sf Bay Bridge Posts: 133	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up Kube, what is the trick then

12-03-2015, 10:57 AM	#11
Gary Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Emeryville, near Oakland and the Sf Bay Bridge Posts: 133	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up JT, I have not installed the wood below the cab, this will make a clearance issue I'm sure. It is just sitting on the frame rail now. I appreciate the help. I have the wood just need to install it. Work in progress. Thanks to all for any help or suggestions.

12-03-2015, 12:20 PM	#13
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up How difficult would it be to raise the cab up on blocks to provide a little clearance?

12-03-2015, 01:43 PM	#14
JonC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Central NY Posts: 629	Re: Installing master cyclender and pedals 40 Pick up I am pretty sure I put my pedals in (40 PU) before the cab was on. I thought that the floor board had a metal plate that you installed after you had the cab on the frame. I don't seem to remember any issue with them, but I could be wrong. I think you will need to raise the cab up to get it right.