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Sixseven · 11-27-2015, 03:19 PM

is the 41 intended to have an optional hand crank start option? The hole in the center of the grill suggests a crank handle could be inserted there. I don't see where the connection would be made to the engine though.

Joe Immler · 11-27-2015, 03:28 PM

Yes, the hole is for a hand crank. 1941 was the last year for them. The connection is on the front of the engine at the crankshaft pulley. I don't have a crank for my '41,but that's how it works.

41LjH · 11-27-2015, 05:04 PM

the radiator has an opening to allow the crank to pass through to connect with the dog on the crank. When I bought my 41 the radiator did not have the opening.

Sixseven · 11-29-2015, 07:55 PM

Does anyone have a picture of the crank?

meric42 · 11-29-2015, 08:08 PM

'42 and i'm pretty sure '46 had apertures for Crank handles too.

Joe Immler · 11-29-2015, 08:31 PM

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The 1942 has a solid core radiator. No opening for a crank to be inserted. I believe the other years had a solid core radiator as well.

Sixseven · 11-29-2015, 08:31 PM

I just checked my engine which is an 8BA in the 41. The crank is lower than the hole in the radiator. Now to figure out if the radiator is incorrect as well.

Joe Immler · 11-29-2015, 08:43 PM

My '41 has a split radiator. The split goes down to where the crank is inserted to crank the engine. There it has a square hole for the crank to pass through. Not sure why your
crank hole does not line up.

Fordestes · 11-29-2015, 08:47 PM

Both my 46s have the crank hole and a stabilizer or protection bracket riveted to the crossmember and the radiators have an indentation in the center bottom of the rad, tanks for a crank access, I gave the crank handle to my pickup away about 40 years ago (big mistake)
I heard too many stories about kick back and was not planning on using a hand crank on anything.
Fordestes,

Sixseven · 11-29-2015, 08:50 PM

Thanks for the feedback. It will take a while, but I will post pics in the future.

meric42 · 11-29-2015, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Immler

The 1942 has a solid core radiator. No opening for a crank to be inserted. I believe the other years had a solid core radiator as well.

I think that you will find that the radiator sits higher in the V8 '42 and '46 so the crank handle goes under the radiator. The Six cylinder Radiator is lower and has a hole in it for the crank handle.

mrtexas · 11-29-2015, 08:54 PM

I just checked and my model A crank is not long enough for my 41 with the split radiator or the 8ba engine did not include a crank pulley that can be cranked!

Fibber Mcgee · 11-30-2015, 10:44 AM

I might be wrong but I thought I'd heard that the jack handle was also used as the crank.

V12Bill · 11-30-2015, 11:12 AM

"Z" shaped lug wrench has a square hole in one end for an extension. The extension engages the dogs in the pulley bolt. Extensions came in several different lengths. Job Lot had new extensions for sale just a few months ago.

Tinker · 11-30-2015, 11:15 AM

I have this one for my 38. No idea the year it's really for.

Chris · 11-30-2015, 12:22 PM

Ford had crank handle openings in pickups all the way up to 1952

Gary in La. · 11-30-2015, 10:17 PM

The hand crank extensions were standard equipment through Sep 1936. After that they were considered optional but could be purchased from Ford if wanted. By 1940 they were only available to "northern" cars. After 1940 they more or less disappeared. The extensions were almost yearly specified so there were specific lengths and part numbers by year.

11-27-2015, 03:19 PM	#1
Sixseven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 482	'41 slot in center grill?? is the 41 intended to have an optional hand crank start option? The hole in the center of the grill suggests a crank handle could be inserted there. I don't see where the connection would be made to the engine though.

11-27-2015, 03:28 PM	#2
Joe Immler Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Massillon, Ohio Posts: 783	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? Yes, the hole is for a hand crank. 1941 was the last year for them. The connection is on the front of the engine at the crankshaft pulley. I don't have a crank for my '41,but that's how it works.

11-27-2015, 05:04 PM	#3
41LjH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: NW North Carolina Posts: 461	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? the radiator has an opening to allow the crank to pass through to connect with the dog on the crank. When I bought my 41 the radiator did not have the opening. __________________ 3 pedals, 3 gears, no valve-covers.. *Now THAT* is a hot rod** !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmwwB34vxJE

11-29-2015, 07:55 PM	#4
Sixseven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 482	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? Does anyone have a picture of the crank?

11-29-2015, 08:08 PM	#5
meric42 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Blenheim, New Zealand Posts: 879	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? '42 and i'm pretty sure '46 had apertures for Crank handles too. __________________ I need an 01A 1453 Brkt Spare wheel hold down for my sedan delivery - PLEASE HELP Gotta love my '42 Sedan Delivery's - Now that I own the only two in New Zealand https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/album.php?albumid=580

11-29-2015, 08:31 PM	#6
Joe Immler Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Massillon, Ohio Posts: 783	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The 1942 has a solid core radiator. No opening for a crank to be inserted. I believe the other years had a solid core radiator as well.

11-29-2015, 08:31 PM	#7
Sixseven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 482	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? I just checked my engine which is an 8BA in the 41. The crank is lower than the hole in the radiator. Now to figure out if the radiator is incorrect as well.

11-29-2015, 08:43 PM	#8
Joe Immler Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Massillon, Ohio Posts: 783	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? My '41 has a split radiator. The split goes down to where the crank is inserted to crank the engine. There it has a square hole for the crank to pass through. Not sure why your crank hole does not line up.

11-29-2015, 08:47 PM	#9
Fordestes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 889	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? Both my 46s have the crank hole and a stabilizer or protection bracket riveted to the crossmember and the radiators have an indentation in the center bottom of the rad, tanks for a crank access, I gave the crank handle to my pickup away about 40 years ago (big mistake) I heard too many stories about kick back and was not planning on using a hand crank on anything. Fordestes,

11-29-2015, 08:50 PM	#10
Sixseven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 482	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? Thanks for the feedback. It will take a while, but I will post pics in the future.

11-29-2015, 08:54 PM	#12
mrtexas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 4,395	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? I just checked and my model A crank is not long enough for my 41 with the split radiator or the 8ba engine did not include a crank pulley that can be cranked!

11-30-2015, 10:44 AM	#13
Fibber Mcgee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Callahan Fla Posts: 1,149	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? I might be wrong but I thought I'd heard that the jack handle was also used as the crank. __________________ Wanted, a car with a " Dynaflex Superflowing Unijet Turbovasculator which is Syncromeshed to the Multicoil Hydrotensioned Dual vacuum Dynomometer. "

11-30-2015, 11:12 AM	#14
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? "Z" shaped lug wrench has a square hole in one end for an extension. The extension engages the dogs in the pulley bolt. Extensions came in several different lengths. Job Lot had new extensions for sale just a few months ago.

11-30-2015, 12:22 PM	#16
Chris Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 2,976	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? Ford had crank handle openings in pickups all the way up to 1952 __________________ Thee Inland Emperors

11-30-2015, 10:17 PM	#17
Gary in La. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Louisiana Posts: 866	Re: '41 slot in center grill?? The hand crank extensions were standard equipment through Sep 1936. After that they were considered optional but could be purchased from Ford if wanted. By 1940 they were only available to "northern" cars. After 1940 they more or less disappeared. The extensions were almost yearly specified so there were specific lengths and part numbers by year.