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03-31-2011, 03:54 PM | #21 |
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Re: Mechanical vs. Juice brakes on an A
I am an expert in my opion and I will not reply because I do not know what it takes to qualify in your mind to be an expert. You must be the same guy that adds the sentence in want ads, "Serious buyers only".
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03-31-2011, 04:28 PM | #23 |
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i use mechanical , rebuilt all 4 & installed "teds" kits , cast drums . i think my brakes are plenty good ! be sure you adjust them correctly !!! .......... steve
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You would be surprised how well a 30's Lincoln Model L or K or a Pierce Arrow V12 stops with mechanical brakes, and those are 6500 lb cars that go 70-80 easily. They are big shoed, with cast drums, self energizing on the Lincoln and the Pierce had a drive shaft driven power assist that made it easy to stop with a light touch.
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04-01-2011, 01:50 AM | #25 |
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With properly set up brakes, either mechanical or hydraulic, those skinny Model A tires are always going to be the real limiting factor in trying to stop quicker. When they lock up, they won't know or care which system is used.
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04-02-2011, 02:20 AM | #26 |
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04-02-2011, 06:54 AM | #27 | |
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04-02-2011, 07:39 AM | #28 |
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"Thanks for everyones reply. I posted the original question because every now and then someone mentions putting juice brakes on a STOCK Model A. I've always thought the brakes Henry put on A's that are properly rebuilt, work just fine."
There are also those folks who don't / "can't" leave anything exactly the way the factory built it... ( I wonder what percentage of Harley's stay exactly the way they left the factory...? ) I would add a small qualifying statement to: "Stock brakes are just fine on a Model A" - a STOCK Model A... If someone goes and substantially boosts the HP of their "banger" or re-powers the car with a hotter engine, then the Model A brakes may no longer be adequate. My personal opinion is, that unless you're building a "heritage rod", and need to stay "old-school" with the Lockheed Juice brakes, if you really need hydraulic brakes, there are better hydraulic brake designs out there. Chrysler Corp. finally gave up on Lockheed-derived brakes after the 1962 full-size cars. From then on, they used Bendix brakes. The "new" compact MoPars used Bendix brakes from day one, 1960 ( just like the Falcon & Comet). Last edited by Special Coupe Frank; 04-04-2011 at 09:44 AM. |
04-02-2011, 09:38 AM | #29 |
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I changed to hydro.I wanted something I had worked on before.They are easy to adjust
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04-10-2011, 07:04 AM | #31 |
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My Model a has cast iron drums and I can lock all wheels at low speed and they are easy to adjust and maintain. My brothers A was converted to 47 hydraulics and he ran silicone fluid. You never knew where you were going when you hit his brakes, one time it would pull left and the next right. I love my Model A mechanicals and I'll stick with them. I drove a restored 27 Chrysler the other day that had hydraulic band type brakes and I almost sailed through every stop sign pressing down as hard as I could so I think I know why external band brakes aren't used anymore. Stick with the A mechanicals and save yourself a lot of work.
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04-10-2011, 08:55 AM | #32 |
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The only thing needed to fit them was a hydraulic brake conversion kit, it contained the spacer ring for the backing plate, which you dont need and a inner bearing spacer, which you do need. The brake operating pin that goes through the knig pin from the 35 or 36 Ford mates up with no modes to the Model A brake actuating shaft assemblies. Was a real easy swap, only thing I did not have was the operating pins which were hard to find.
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I think the spacer thickness was about 3/8". The seal was a stock 35/36 Ford seal. The spindles I used are 32 Ford. The A spindle where the bearings go were the same. Forgot to mention that, though it shouldnt matter.
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04-11-2011, 10:00 AM | #35 |
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thanks lowbuck...
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04-12-2011, 12:19 AM | #36 |
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Thanks Lowbuckboy - I'd like to stay mechanical - I actually like those dang rods going out to the wheels - just wondering if I can get a bit more 'stop' as I'm hoping to go a bit faster...
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In 1961, I had a 4 door 1931 Model A. Now in 2015, I have4 a 1929 model A truck with V8-60 engine. My mechanical set up on the '31 were "Hopefully you will stop in time". Now I would like hydraulic something. Is there a vendor that ships ALL parts needed for the Conversion?
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I assume you meant 39-48 which are lockheed and not as good as Bendix but better than mechanicals. Bill |
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Point car or not?
I said this many years ago.. "Model A Ford mechanical brakes, when properly installed and adjusted, are arguably as good as, or better than, Hydraulic brakes." Besides the cost, Henry felt that his change to juice brakes was Customer driven, knowing that he still had a superior braking system for the day.. Larry
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