I’m sure it’s been asked but I need help with removing valves

[cas3]

How's the valve project going Mr bus guy ? we need a progress report !

[busmania]

I may or may not have busted out the plasma cutter. Haha. Not necessarily my proudest moment but with the rust on this block (inside the ports) and knowing I’ll be replacing all these parts anyway, I gave up. I still have two stuck even after cutting but I’ll get them out. Working on drilling the top of the valve off so I can knock the guides down. Not pretty but at least I’m close to getting this thing to the machine shop for the fun stuff.

[cas3]

When you get to the violence part, keep in mind the guide is split in two halves, so if you are pounding on the remains of the stem with some taper still on it, it would expand the guide making it tighter, or perhaps even break the block. I'd try a piece of pipe on the guide I think, and not the stem unless its only the straight portion left.

[alchemy]

When you are ordering new parts, get the late flathead style valve conversion set. The one piece guides and straight stem valves will make assembly much easier, and less likely to let oil suck into the port.

[B-O-B]

I had one that was stuck, yup #8, so I stuck my pickle fork under the bottom & pounded away. When it came out it flew across the garage headed for where my 32 roadster was resting, the next bay over. I was praying wouldn't hit the car, quick, short prayer, but not in time. I didn't hear it hit but did find a grease spot, on my top 1/4 sail panel. PHEW that was a close one. Definitely will be more careful next time.

[Flathead Fever]

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Originally Posted by L-head

The All Power valve tools are great. I wish someone would make them again. When all else fails, cut the springs and the valve stems. I have scars on both hands from engines that I have torn down. The K-D 918 tool is a good one; they also made on for 60hp engines.

I have one of those All-Power Valve guider keeper removal bars. They are hard to find. It has a knurled end that grabs the tab on the keeper and rips it right out. It works on guides that are stuck so bad that the flathead valve bar won't budge them down. It destroys the keeper, but it gets them out. Then I use a bearing press plate under the valve head. As I tighten the nuts it pulls up on the valve until the guide pops loose. It works really well for getting the most stubborn guides loose. That way I'm not pounding on stuff.

Sorry I don't have a photo of the All-Power Tool in my computer, but I have a couple of the press plate popping a guide out that refused to budge. They all
came out with the valve bar except two that refused to move even after ripping the keepers out with the All-Power tool. I had this press plate hanging on the wall and I had a vision. It popped them out without hardly any effort.

[cas3]

By golly, thats a good idea !

[busmania]

I’m not proud. But it’s done. On the flip side I think I did no damage to the block going this route whereas if I hadn’t cut stuff, I think I woulda been prying on things so much it may have damaged things. Anyway, it is what it is and at least it’s done and I can take it to the machine shop this week.

The carnage.
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[cas3]

Good job ! Thats a real nice coupe you got, I saw it on the hamb. Post the pics for the guys here !

[chuck stevens]

I have taken a piece of pipe cut to just fit under the valve with the spring compressed, valve all the way open. You will have to saw it length wise so it can go around the stem, tap the head of the valve with a 5 lbs, it should drive out the guide enough to remove it from the cam side. You'll have to take keepers and old spring out to get room. Hot from back yard mechanic!!

[Mart]

Is it time for a conversation about studs?

[busmania]

Originally Posted by Mart

Is it time for a conversation about studs?

I’m dreading it! But I may buy that tool that’s been talked about here in the last week that heats the studs. Or I’ll get lucky and won’t need to remove them.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by busmania

I’m dreading it! But I may buy that tool that’s been talked about here in the last week that heats the studs. Or I’ll get lucky and won’t need to remove them.

Haha. That was me who posted about the Bolt Buster. After using the oxy-acetylene torch on a number of flatheads when removing studs, I can't recommended the Bolt Buster highly enough.

It does the same thing, maybe better and its a lot quicker and safer.

Later, I'll also post my arsenal of valve tools. I have both All Power tools and the K-D tool posted here. If these tools can't get the guide out, it ain't coming out.