Shock Temp. ????

[BILL WZOREK]

Could some one that has a Hand held Infrered Thermometer check what the shock temp.is @ start of trip then after a Run of at least 20 miles.
And if there is a difference between front & Back shocks.

THANKS

[34PKUP]

Originally Posted by BILL WZOREK

Could some one that has a Hand held Infrered Thermometer check what the shock temp.is @ start of trip then after a Run of at least 20 miles.
And if there is a difference between front & Back shocks.

THANKS

Would you like the 20 miles to be on smooth roads (less shock travel) or really bumpy roads (more shock travel) ?

[BILL WZOREK]

That would be interesting >>> I know ther warm up but don't know how much!!!
Are you volunteering your service?

[Kurt in NJ]

I know that they can get hot enough to not be able to hold your hand on them, this was on a "smooth" concrete road , just the expansion joints, @65mph and 4 hours of driving at that speed,

[34PKUP]

Volunteering service? Nope, not this time of the year and plus there are too many variables such as which shock is getting more cooling airflow due to vehicle design differences.

[BILL WZOREK]

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That is exactly what I would like REAL WORLD not a controlled test to see how hot someone can get one.
Every part of these cars and this HOBBIE we enjoy,have many Variables.

[Pete]

I can't give you exact temperatures but I have stock type shocks on just the front of my A and after a fast ride (6 miles) on dirt and gravel roads back in the woods, they get so hot you can't touch them. They have been on the car about 8 years and are still working good.

[Clem Clement]

Bill,
In my '39 peeekup with a load of womens aboard things get pretty hot

[trainguy]

Originally Posted by Clem Clement

Bill,
In my '39 peeekup with a load of womens aboard things get pretty hot

Now that's Shocking!!!

[Heard]

Originally Posted by Clem Clement

Bill,
In my '39 peeekup with a load of womens aboard things get pretty hot

Almost spewed beer with that one.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Heard

Almost spewed beer with that one.

You'll soon learn that Clem ALWAYS has a problem keepin' them "hot" womens away from his peek-up. DD

[Lawson Cox]

Originally Posted by BILL WZOREK

Could some one that has a Hand held Infrered Thermometer check what the shock temp.is @ start of trip then after a Run of at least 20 miles.
And if there is a difference between front & Back shocks.

THANKS

GM has probably tested that out several times. Hope he jumps in. LOL

[Clem Clement]

back to a shock question, how do you guys fill a mounted shock to the proper level?

[ford38v8]

Clem, When a shock is mounted, that's the only time you can be sure it is filled to the correct level. Being on the side, you can't overfill it.

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by Clem Clement

Bill,
In my '39 peeekup with a load of womens aboard things get pretty hot

Hot Womens for Clems Peeekup!

[G.M.]

Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

GM has probably tested that out several times. Hope he jumps in. LOL

I put a set of Lincoln shocks from about a 39 LZ coupe that was in a junk yard 32 years ago. They have a little larger OD body and if I remember the rears mounted with no problem. The fronts did not have enough clearance between the body and the nut heads to turn the nuts. I put the bolts in from the outside with the nuts inside of the frame. I think I may have had to grind a little off one of the hex flats for the bolt head to clear the shock body. After 32 years and 115,000 miles these shock still work like new. I don't think the shocks get real hot from the action of movement. In HOT weather the black top surface of the road probly gets to 130 degrees reflecting heat to the entire under carriage . If I was a rebuilder of shocks I wouldn't ask unreliable sources for important info which would have a wide range of results due to uncontrolled operating temperatures and conditions. What should be done is to make a simple test machine which could be run at various temperatures. This could be the slow output shaft of a gear reduction with a flywheel and a crankpin/ upper shock mount at the diameter on the flywheel that would move the shock within it's operational motion. The flywheel could have several holes to operate the shock at different strokes. The fly wheel should have a drive "shaft" in the center powered by a lathe which can be slowed down enough to change the frequency of "bumps". This gives reliable uniform information controlled by the test machine operator. G.M.

[oldford2]

Bill,
Just curious. If this data could be collected, what is your goal. Is this just interesting information or do you have some possible modifications in mind? In your rebuilding work have you seen evidence that maybe heat can diminish performance?
John

[BILL WZOREK]

G.M. Thanks I understand what you are saying >> BUT << If I can get REAL WORD Operating Temp. {Even though different conditions will give different results} Then I can Have a average base Temp.# to start with.
The Machine can be made but with out Real world #'s It would be hard to tell the difference from the Pepper & the fly Poop!!!
If I run the Machine Faster then the Real word shock arm movement it will heat up more / slower would result in less heat.
If there was a average temp. that could be used as my base then I could do my calcuations from there.
Or am I missing some thing George???

[BILL WZOREK]

John:
I have a few Ideas to reinvent the wheel,And There is room for Improvement,That being said I've rested by back long enough it's back to the garage !!!!

[flatjack9]

I agree that a test fixture would be very beneficial. But you would still need real world experience to know if the test fixture is replicating actual operating conditions.