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Old 02-15-2012, 02:18 PM   #1
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Default rethreading perch bolts/axles

I have some special dies that can be used to thread from the ends of threads back out to the end of the part. The dies will fix smashed perch bolt and axle threads. Anybody interested in this service?

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Old 02-15-2012, 02:27 PM   #2
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You have a thread chaser. Not hard to find. Many tool companies make them.
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:24 PM   #3
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Lawson, I owe you a huge 'thank-you' for the info. I've been wondering how to repair or re-form the threads on my steering column. I did a search, and came up with a bunch of sources, just like you suggested. I bought a chase die from Chase 'em Back Tools, in CA. It's a Chase 'em Back, Hinged, Reverse Thread Chaser, which should work perfectly on my steering column, without taking it all apart.
Thanks again...
(Sorry... Didn't mean to 'hijack'...)

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Old 02-15-2012, 07:13 PM   #4
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The traditional tool was a big hinged plate with multiple openings for common axle thread sizes.
An easy-to-find modern tool (from industrial supply places) is made by "Little Giant" and is a 2-part die in 5/8-18 with a special adjustable handle that allows adjusting the spacing between the parts. This allows you to start loose and work towards normal spec (which is marked on the holder) so you can roll the metal back towards home and not just cut it away.
That thread size fits perches, steering column, and rear axles, all the parts commonly obliterated by frenzied attacks on the always stuck pieces.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:10 PM   #5
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Use a triangular file or a thread file.

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Old 02-15-2012, 10:42 PM   #6
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Well, I guess I have my answer. Lawson, why do you think you know what I have?
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:43 AM   #7
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Well, I guess I have my answer. Lawson, why do you think you know what I have?
Lawson does not have a clue what you have Andy.
I don't think any of the others do either.
I do though.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:02 AM   #8
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Lawson does not have a clue what you have Andy.
I don't think any of the others do either.
I do though.
Don't be too sure of that.

http://murraycorp.com/split-die-tool.html

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Old 02-16-2012, 10:10 AM   #9
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Well for crying out loud guys please end the suspense and tell us what you have. I have a bunch of EFV8 parts with botched up threads needing repair. Tell us your secret please
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:20 AM   #10
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Well for crying out loud guys please end the suspense and tell us what you have. I have a bunch of EFV8 parts with botched up threads needing repair. Tell us your secret please

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Old 02-16-2012, 10:40 AM   #11
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Looks like a tool to have after seeing the video. I see that Northern Tool sell's them.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:44 AM   #12
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Some more good info from an old boy who has been there done that.Watch it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZP9m1z7o9k

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Old 02-16-2012, 10:53 AM   #13
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Did the same thing a number of years ago by cutting a die with a cutoff
wheel, then taping it in place with the necessary layers of masking tape
on the thread. It worked and just cost me the price of a new die ( to
replace the one that was sacrificed )
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:58 AM   #14
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Did the same thing a number of years ago by cutting a die with a cutoff
wheel, then taping it in place with the necessary layers of masking tape
on the thread. It worked and just cost me the price of a new die ( to
replace the one that was sacrificed )

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Old 02-16-2012, 12:07 PM   #15
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this series of posts reminds me of the day time soap operas. grow up boys. for those that posted useful information, thanx. the rest of it, why all the mystery?
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:50 PM   #16
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Thanks Andy, I hadn't seen those before. Very useful.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:58 PM   #17
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OK, Here is the deal. I hate to see things ruined and thrown away. I have picked up bashed perch bolts for years. I have tried filing and I have tried thread files. I have tried regular dies and also split dies. Nothing worked. I finally bought some heavy US made adjustable dies. They were not cheap. The dies and the collet weigh about 2 pounds. I was trying to offer other Barn'ers the service of fixing their parts for almost free. I thought about $5 a thread. I thought some would like to get their axles and steering shafts done at a swap meet. I go to the Texas swaps and could do it without all the shipping costs. It would be far better than scrapping the parts or buyng expensive tools. I can't beleive all the smart remarks posted earlier. I do my best to help people and think it is out of place to ridicule someone when you have no idea what you are talking about. I posted a tech on the HAMB about removing perch bolts with no hammering. Some of you might want to look at that for info.
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:23 PM   #18
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Well, I guess I have my answer. Lawson, why do you think you know what I have?
I perhaps do not know the correct nomenclature for your particular tool, it is, however basically a thread chaser which are not all that uncommon. I have been turning wrenches a long time and am not a neophyte when it comes to tools. (Pardon me if this is a duplicate post. My first one just didn't show up on my screen.)
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Hi Andy, you have brought up an interesting subject. A common thread chaser won't quite do the job correctly if the ends are mushroomed. I'm not sure how yours works, but if it will cut the end to the correct diameter and maintain the threads it should have some use, especially for axles.

I'm don't know how the others know what you have, either. Lawson sort of set the tone for some of the other posts and some days are better than others. Ask Vic. I've learned about split dies from your post, be they home made or store-bought. Thank you.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:03 PM   #20
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I perhaps do not know the correct nomenclature for your particular tool, it is, however basically a thread chaser which are not all that uncommon. I have been turning wrenches a long time and am not a neophyte when it comes to tools. (Pardon me if this is a duplicate post. My first one just didn't show up on my screen.)
Some of the rest of us have some experience also Lawson.
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