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saltman · 07-21-2013, 02:34 PM

I see NO way to get the door side window out of my 28 coupe just happens to be the passenger). I have removed the upper trim and sweep, regulator and all window felt channel. Nothing left but door and window with lower metal channel still attached (which does not seem to make any difference). I see NO way it can come out the top... the window will not clear the metal side channels. And, after measuring, even if I took out the lower verticle brace, it would have less of a chance coming out of the bottom. Really need some help here!

Thanks Always... SALTMAN

Tinbasher · 07-21-2013, 02:39 PM

Sounds like something is bent? Maybe the inner door structure or frame. Take a measurement from the other door from the front edge to the rear edge and see what you have. 3/16 of an inch will jam the window from coming out the top. You should be able to remove the top panel on the door (3 screws) the regulator and lift the window out the top.

The Old Tinbasher

saltman · 07-21-2013, 03:00 PM

I don't know what 'top panel' with 3 screws you're talking about? Please respond... SALTMAN

saltman · 07-21-2013, 03:28 PM

Hey Tinbasher...
You have made my day... after 3 days of headscratching and beginning to loose faith in my very own sensibilites, do I now see what panel you are talking about. After reading your response and replying to it, I immediately went out to take a closer look and there was that beautiful, most enlightening moment. Its the panel at the very top of the door. I never knew it was removeable...! I thought this part was welded in, a part of the door. The 3 screws you spoke of were not that visable due to rust/dirt. I was about to believe that Ford had hired Houdini to install these things. This is why I have NO fear of asking questions on Fordbarn... I have discovered that even simple things are hard to do if you don't know how to do them and nothing should be assumed by readers. Lastly, I never get tired of saying it... 'you guys are best'! SALTMAN

Tom Wesenberg · 07-21-2013, 05:40 PM

Those 3 screws can be very hard to remove. I had to heat two of mine. Once you get the 3 screws out then there is a small peg on the edge of the panel that tucks into a hole in the door, so you may have to tilt the panel to the side a bit then lift.

1931 flamingo · 07-21-2013, 06:16 PM

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TommyCoupe · 07-22-2013, 06:37 AM

Saltman,

Don't feel bad. I was removing the glass from my doors this weekend also, and it was struggle.
Those 3 screws were pretty stubborn. Broke the heads off of 2 screws and now pieces are stuck in the D nuts. Replacing those D nuts doesn't look like fun, so I'm hoping I can extract what's left of the screws without damaging the D nuts.

TommyCoupe-

Tom Wesenberg · 07-22-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyCoupe

Saltman,

Don't feel bad. I was removing the glass from my doors this weekend also, and it was struggle.
Those 3 screws were pretty stubborn. Broke the heads off of 2 screws and now pieces are stuck in the D nuts. Replacing those D nuts doesn't look like fun, so I'm hoping I can extract what's left of the screws without damaging the D nuts.

TommyCoupe-

A dremel with a diamond bit should allow you to get a well centered hole started. Then drill to the edge of the threads and see if a tap won't grab and remove the remaining thread.

Steve Plucker · 07-22-2013, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyCoupe

Saltman,

Don't feel bad. I was removing the glass from my doors this weekend also, and it was struggle.
Those 3 screws were pretty stubborn. Broke the heads off of 2 screws and now pieces are stuck in the D nuts. Replacing those D nuts doesn't look like fun, so I'm hoping I can extract what's left of the screws without damaging the D nuts.

TommyCoupe-

That is where just a little heat and a dush of cold water makes the removal of stubborn screws a snap.

The heat "expands" the screw or bolt or nut or whatever it is...then the cold water shocks the part then with some WD-40 or your favorite stuff, off it comes...simple as that.

Pluck

1931 flamingo · 07-22-2013, 11:40 AM

TommyCoupe: Try putting some 50/50 ATF and acetone on the snapped screws/D-nuts and let it soak. Maybe a left turn drill? Or try drilling them out.
Paul in CT

07-21-2013, 02:34 PM	#1
saltman Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82	DUMBFOUNDED... still need help! I see NO way to get the door side window out of my 28 coupe just happens to be the passenger). I have removed the upper trim and sweep, regulator and all window felt channel. Nothing left but door and window with lower metal channel still attached (which does not seem to make any difference). I see NO way it can come out the top... the window will not clear the metal side channels. And, after measuring, even if I took out the lower verticle brace, it would have less of a chance coming out of the bottom. Really need some help here! Thanks Always... SALTMAN

07-21-2013, 02:39 PM	#2
Tinbasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Innisfil, Ontario Canada Posts: 1,174	Re: DUMBFOUNDED... still need help! Sounds like something is bent? Maybe the inner door structure or frame. Take a measurement from the other door from the front edge to the rear edge and see what you have. 3/16 of an inch will jam the window from coming out the top. You should be able to remove the top panel on the door (3 screws) the regulator and lift the window out the top. The Old Tinbasher

07-21-2013, 03:00 PM	#3
saltman Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82	Re: DUMBFOUNDED... still need help! I don't know what 'top panel' with 3 screws you're talking about? Please respond... SALTMAN

07-21-2013, 03:28 PM	#4
saltman Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82	Re: DUMBFOUNDED... still need help! Hey Tinbasher... You have made my day... after 3 days of headscratching and beginning to loose faith in my very own sensibilites, do I now see what panel you are talking about. After reading your response and replying to it, I immediately went out to take a closer look and there was that beautiful, most enlightening moment. Its the panel at the very top of the door. I never knew it was removeable...! I thought this part was welded in, a part of the door. The 3 screws you spoke of were not that visable due to rust/dirt. I was about to believe that Ford had hired Houdini to install these things. This is why I have NO fear of asking questions on Fordbarn... I have discovered that even simple things are hard to do if you don't know how to do them and nothing should be assumed by readers. Lastly, I never get tired of saying it... 'you guys are best'! SALTMAN

07-21-2013, 05:40 PM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: DUMBFOUNDED... still need help! Those 3 screws can be very hard to remove. I had to heat two of mine. Once you get the 3 screws out then there is a small peg on the edge of the panel that tucks into a hole in the door, so you may have to tilt the panel to the side a bit then lift. Last edited by Tom Wesenberg; 07-21-2013 at 06:37 PM.

07-21-2013, 06:16 PM	#6
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,393	Re: DUMBFOUNDED... still need help! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) saltman: Do NOT hesitate to ask a question(s). By asking a question, others (me included) get educated about our cars. What may seem simple to you may be monumental for others. Paul in CT

07-22-2013, 06:37 AM	#7
TommyCoupe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 204	Re: DUMBFOUNDED... still need help! Saltman, Don't feel bad. I was removing the glass from my doors this weekend also, and it was struggle. Those 3 screws were pretty stubborn. Broke the heads off of 2 screws and now pieces are stuck in the D nuts. Replacing those D nuts doesn't look like fun, so I'm hoping I can extract what's left of the screws without damaging the D nuts. TommyCoupe-

07-22-2013, 11:40 AM	#10
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,393	Re: DUMBFOUNDED... still need help! TommyCoupe: Try putting some 50/50 ATF and acetone on the snapped screws/D-nuts and let it soak. Maybe a left turn drill? Or try drilling them out. Paul in CT