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Alaska Jim · 04-04-2014, 12:24 AM

To all you guys with 49-51 Merc's. with stock front suspension's. this may sound stupid, but I don't know any other way to put it. what are you using for the grease seal and where are you getting them. I have tried all parts stores, and the seals are obsolete. all the specialty places (like van Pelt's, shoebox central , and Mercury land etc.) have no listing's. I have not been able to even come up with an aftermarket ( CR, Victor, National, etc.) #. the last time I packed the whl. brg's. I am sure I got them from Napa and they were victor seals, however I cannot find my old paper work ( probably lost or misplaced in the last move 7 years ago). anyone out there with an old seal catalog with a listing for these seals ? if I had a # I may be able to find something by inside and outside diam., although if they are really discontinued and are obsolete, any suggestions on what a person is to do, short of changing the spindles and all? any help and suggestions are appreciated. Keep in mind that these seals are not the same as the 49-51 Ford. Thank You.------Jim

rick55 · 04-04-2014, 01:26 AM

Concours Parts has a specific listing for the seals you need.
Part *8M-1190 and are priced at $14.95 each.
Macsautoparts also have listing.
Front Wheel Grease Seal - 1-13/16 ID X 2-27/32 OD - Mercury Only - MERCURY
Part #: 49-19783-1
Alt Part #: 8M-1190-A
Price:
$20.95 ea.
Low Price Guarantee
Fitment:
1949 thru 1951
See applications below for exact details.

Alaska Jim · 04-04-2014, 02:59 AM

Rick55, thank you very much. for some reason I forgot about Mac's, and I did not know about concours parts. I will check them out Thanks again I hope these pan out. I also hope that they are not the original nos seals that are leather, as I got some of them once, (forgot where) and the leather was hard and dried out. I tried to soften them up, but had no luck . I hope that maybe I can return the favor some time. Thanks,------Jim

LOWRIDER · 04-04-2014, 06:51 AM

Joblotauto.com also has them. Same # 8M-1190 12.95 ea.

tdlmomowers · 04-04-2014, 01:35 PM

I work for Napa. I will see if I can get you a part number on Monday. We have some of the older seal catalogs, still around. I never throw away the older catalogs. You just never know what someone may need.

Alaska Jim · 04-04-2014, 09:36 PM

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tdlmomowers, Thank you, I sure would appreciate it if you come up with an old napa #. the fact that I know I used to have the napa #, and that I can't find it is driving me crazy. been tearing my place apart looking for it. I moved about 7 years ago and I think some of my receipts have been misplaced or lost during the move. I am going to try and call Mac's and see what they have. I am trying to stay away from the N.O.S. Ford/Mercury seals that are leather. got some of those once before and they were hard as a rock. no matter what I tried, I could not get them to soften up enough to be useable. like I say the fact that I used to have the Napa #, along with the cross to CR, National, and Victor, and cannot find it drives me nuts. Thanks.------Jim

Hoosier Hurricane · 04-05-2014, 05:16 AM

My 1960 NAPA catalog lists Victor 49586.

John

tdlmomowers · 04-05-2014, 11:45 AM

Jim, the Victor number is 49586, for 49 thru 51 Mercury front wheel seals. We no longer sell Victor seals. Our seals are now made by Chicago Rawhide, and there is no cross reference on that number. There is no listing on the computer or the Napa oil seal paper catalog. Perhaps your local Napa store could find you some seals by dimensions of your old seal. Sorry, I tried.

Alaska Jim · 04-05-2014, 01:57 PM

tdlmomowers, thanks for finding that #, it is one that I have been looking for. I was pretty sure It was no longer available. I have found a few other places that list the seal as available. Mac's, and job lot are a couple. I will be calling them on Monday. Thank you very much for taking the time to ck for me, I really appreciate it. If I can ever be of help in any way , let me know, and I will do my best.-------Jim

leadsled · 04-07-2014, 06:44 AM

Rockauto.com has seven rear seals left

Alaska Jim · 04-07-2014, 04:38 PM

Thanks leadsled, but I am looking for the front wheel brg. grease seals. was going to call a few places today, but got a bad cold and with the time difference, I did not get up early enough.

Motorhead6 · 04-07-2014, 05:26 PM

Contact John Deere parts or a bearing specialty shop such as Timkin. Give them the ID, OD and width; they will hook you up without a P/N.

55 dude · 08-31-2014, 12:47 PM

did anyone come up with different part number?

Alaska Jim · 08-31-2014, 05:38 PM

I never got any other #'s. I did order some from Mac's. they got here just fine, however there is no part number on them that I can find.

ford3 · 08-31-2014, 08:22 PM

isn't the # listed on the seal? on the edge or on the rubber seal?

Alaska Jim · 09-01-2014, 12:03 AM

no, I looked every where on the seal with a magnifying glass. no numbers

bobss396 · 09-01-2014, 08:27 AM

8A-1190-A at C & G Ford parts, $4 each.

Alaska Jim · 09-02-2014, 01:33 AM

I believe that is the original Ford/Mercury part #. I got mine at Mac's.

bobss396 · 09-02-2014, 12:51 PM

I find the best way to find parts is by the Ford numbers, get lots of hits and choices when doing a search.

WIS-ski · 09-07-2014, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 55 dude

did anyone come up with different part number?

skf 16811

04-04-2014, 12:24 AM	#1
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Front wheel bearing grease seal To all you guys with 49-51 Merc's. with stock front suspension's. this may sound stupid, but I don't know any other way to put it. what are you using for the grease seal and where are you getting them. I have tried all parts stores, and the seals are obsolete. all the specialty places (like van Pelt's, shoebox central , and Mercury land etc.) have no listing's. I have not been able to even come up with an aftermarket ( CR, Victor, National, etc.) #. the last time I packed the whl. brg's. I am sure I got them from Napa and they were victor seals, however I cannot find my old paper work ( probably lost or misplaced in the last move 7 years ago). anyone out there with an old seal catalog with a listing for these seals ? if I had a # I may be able to find something by inside and outside diam., although if they are really discontinued and are obsolete, any suggestions on what a person is to do, short of changing the spindles and all? any help and suggestions are appreciated. Keep in mind that these seals are not the same as the 49-51 Ford. Thank You.------Jim

04-04-2014, 02:59 AM	#3
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal Rick55, thank you very much. for some reason I forgot about Mac's, and I did not know about concours parts. I will check them out Thanks again I hope these pan out. I also hope that they are not the original nos seals that are leather, as I got some of them once, (forgot where) and the leather was hard and dried out. I tried to soften them up, but had no luck . I hope that maybe I can return the favor some time. Thanks,------Jim

04-04-2014, 06:51 AM	#4
LOWRIDER Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kingman Az. 86409 Posts: 419	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal Joblotauto.com also has them. Same # 8M-1190 12.95 ea. __________________ Dan Kingman Az. 86409

04-04-2014, 01:35 PM	#5
tdlmomowers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mansfield, Ohio Posts: 409	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal I work for Napa. I will see if I can get you a part number on Monday. We have some of the older seal catalogs, still around. I never throw away the older catalogs. You just never know what someone may need.

04-04-2014, 09:36 PM	#6
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) tdlmomowers, Thank you, I sure would appreciate it if you come up with an old napa #. the fact that I know I used to have the napa #, and that I can't find it is driving me crazy. been tearing my place apart looking for it. I moved about 7 years ago and I think some of my receipts have been misplaced or lost during the move. I am going to try and call Mac's and see what they have. I am trying to stay away from the N.O.S. Ford/Mercury seals that are leather. got some of those once before and they were hard as a rock. no matter what I tried, I could not get them to soften up enough to be useable. like I say the fact that I used to have the Napa #, along with the cross to CR, National, and Victor, and cannot find it drives me nuts. Thanks.------Jim

04-05-2014, 05:16 AM	#7
Hoosier Hurricane Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 85	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal My 1960 NAPA catalog lists Victor 49586. John

04-05-2014, 11:45 AM	#8
tdlmomowers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mansfield, Ohio Posts: 409	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal Jim, the Victor number is 49586, for 49 thru 51 Mercury front wheel seals. We no longer sell Victor seals. Our seals are now made by Chicago Rawhide, and there is no cross reference on that number. There is no listing on the computer or the Napa oil seal paper catalog. Perhaps your local Napa store could find you some seals by dimensions of your old seal. Sorry, I tried.

04-05-2014, 01:57 PM	#9
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal tdlmomowers, thanks for finding that #, it is one that I have been looking for. I was pretty sure It was no longer available. I have found a few other places that list the seal as available. Mac's, and job lot are a couple. I will be calling them on Monday. Thank you very much for taking the time to ck for me, I really appreciate it. If I can ever be of help in any way , let me know, and I will do my best.-------Jim

04-07-2014, 06:44 AM	#10
leadsled Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Alabama Posts: 10	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal Rockauto.com has seven rear seals left

04-07-2014, 04:38 PM	#11
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal Thanks leadsled, but I am looking for the front wheel brg. grease seals. was going to call a few places today, but got a bad cold and with the time difference, I did not get up early enough.

04-07-2014, 05:26 PM	#12
Motorhead6 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Orange Park, Fl Posts: 406	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal Contact John Deere parts or a bearing specialty shop such as Timkin. Give them the ID, OD and width; they will hook you up without a P/N.

08-31-2014, 12:47 PM	#13
55 dude Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 359	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal did anyone come up with different part number?

08-31-2014, 05:38 PM	#14
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal I never got any other #'s. I did order some from Mac's. they got here just fine, however there is no part number on them that I can find.

08-31-2014, 08:22 PM	#15
ford3 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: oroville calif. Posts: 1,453	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal isn't the # listed on the seal? on the edge or on the rubber seal?

09-01-2014, 12:03 AM	#16
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal no, I looked every where on the seal with a magnifying glass. no numbers

09-01-2014, 08:27 AM	#17
bobss396 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 721	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal 8A-1190-A at C & G Ford parts, $4 each.

09-02-2014, 01:33 AM	#18
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal I believe that is the original Ford/Mercury part #. I got mine at Mac's.

09-02-2014, 12:51 PM	#19
bobss396 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 721	Re: Front wheel bearing grease seal I find the best way to find parts is by the Ford numbers, get lots of hits and choices when doing a search.