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Old 05-18-2014, 05:36 PM   #1
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I have learned that my club historic plates registrar will allow a model A speedster to be on historic plates , if....

I can prove documentation that a speedster was built by anyone during model A production run.

If the 32 ford was not sold until march, when did the last model A roll off the assembly line (anywhere in the world , not just the Rouge plant ) ?

I would presume that the A was still being made during and probably after the V8 introduction ?

What would be ideal is if I could find info on a model A speedster built with a V8 , then I could really build something .

With documentation and pics, I can convince the registrar.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:47 PM   #2
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Why not ask a local Hot Rod owner how he registered his Hot Rod, you are building an early Hot Rod. Bob
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The Last Model A rolled off the assembly line sometime in the late 30's to early 40's in Russia. The A engine was being made for tractor engines after the v-8 came out-I think Vince Falter's website has the engine production dates?.

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I took some reprint ads from back issues of SSOS that show that Ford dealers sold speedster bodies as replacements for damaged stock Ford bodies. Morton & brent (sp?) speedster bodies were offered by Ford dealers in the early thirties. Local DMV had no issues.
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I took some reprint ads from back issues of SSOS that show that Ford dealers sold speedster bodies as replacements for damaged stock Ford bodies. Morton & brent (sp?) speedster bodies were offered by Ford dealers in the early thirties. Local DMV had no issues.
This would be perfect .

Would you have any pics and info of these reprint ads ?

I cannot use hearsay from a local hot rodder to prove my case.

In fact I am a local hot rodder myself, as I have two rods.

I can easily register any car with full rego, it is just the club rules, is they must be basically original or a replacement or a modification to the year/s they were built.
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Google secrets of speed society(soss) and send Charlie Yapp an email asking for reprents of the old ads for speedster bodies. There was one particular ad that referred to ford dealers selling speedster bodies to replace crash damaged stock bodies.
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Old 05-18-2014, 08:01 PM   #7
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Check out "Mercury Bodied Speedsters" This was another company that built bodies for T's and A's.

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I have learned that my club historic plates registrar will allow a model A speedster to be on historic plates , if....

I can prove documentation that a speedster was built by anyone during model A production run.

If the 32 ford was not sold until march, when did the last model A roll off the assembly line (anywhere in the world , not just the Rouge plant ) ?

I would presume that the A was still being made during and probably after the V8 introduction ?

What would be ideal is if I could find info on a model A speedster built with a V8 , then I could really build something .

With documentation and pics, I can convince the registrar.
Anyone? not a manufacturer? If you can prove that your Uncle Mort built one in 1930 that would allow the historic registration? Cool!
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Old 05-19-2014, 02:03 AM   #9
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Anyone? not a manufacturer? If you can prove that your Uncle Mort built one in 1930 that would allow the historic registration? Cool!
As they were built by individuals, Uncle Mort would be fine if it had documentation and pics and a date that he built it.

I could even photoshop a pic and docs , but I would prefer to keep it kosher.
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:19 AM   #10
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There were race cars called modifieds. They were raced in the late 30's and up until the war. After the war they evolved into track roadsters. A lot of them just had the cab portion of the body. looked a lot like todays speedsters but rougher. Both A's and T's. Poor mans racing ! Dirt track. I've seen a lot of these adds for bodies but they were for T's.
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Old 05-24-2014, 09:41 PM   #11
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Pooch,
Did you find info to make this happen? I'm going to be in a similar situation myself. Tks.
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Old 05-25-2014, 05:36 PM   #12
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Charlie Yapp (thanks to Denis 4X4) was most helpful and wrote me a very detailed email with pics.

Ya should see his 125 HP four banger speedster !!!!.

Not much joy on model A variants.

All model T.

But as a local club member has got a 29 chrysler with wooden wheels passed to be speedster built, I am sure I will find a way to get a model A through.
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:04 PM   #13
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I registered two of my Model T Speedsters as Roadsters, no questions asked.
In California.
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My speedster is known to the state as a 1928 roadster pickup.
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Old 05-26-2014, 01:24 AM   #15
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My drama is not the govt. at all.

They don't even have to sight the car.

It is just the club registrar only I have to get past.

He alone signs off to originality and year/s built.

I can fully understand his problem, if he signs mine off, and some other club see it , they could get narky, if they have been rejected.

Each club has its own registrar, and they do have to look after the historic movement as a whole.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:48 AM   #16
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The attached pic is of a speedster on historic plates care of the NSW Model A Club's web site.
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Old 05-26-2014, 11:00 AM   #18
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Pooch, a model A speedster set the record from Sydney to Bourke, 512 miles, in November 1929, averaging 47.7 mph. The driver was Norman Aubin. And just in case that is not enough, the rego of the car was A2629. Then in December 1929, the record was broken by Perry Donnelly in a Whippet Six at an average of 51.4 mph. Not to be out done, Norman went out and regained the record in the A speedster in January 1930 with an average of 52.3 mph. The car still exists and was restored by Martin McCarthy in the late 70's. The original body was built by William Green bodies of Petersham, NSW. This was the second of such speedsters made by them, with the first being made for Ted Tunbridge. You should be able to contact the NSW model A club to get more info on this.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:04 PM   #19
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Thanks Wagga, if they can get that stripped down A on club rego, I will have no trouble.

But this car gives a precedent, which is all I need.

Mine will have a formed cowl and sweeping back on sides.

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