The Ford Barn

1952henry · 11-14-2023, 01:00 PM

Saw a 28-29 chassis in scrapyard and could not help myself. Transmission shifts as does auxillary. No practical use for it, other than belting to my old blacksmith drill, perhaps.

emf · 11-14-2023, 03:32 PM

That second gear box is a Ford Dual-Hi that was married with the three speed transmission from a Ford car. Standard issue for 28's and early 29's. The Dual High gave you an under-drive.

Frank

1952henry · 11-14-2023, 03:56 PM

Thanks, that what I understand. Just couldn’t let it go to the torch and come back as a Turdota. May find a way to belt it to my old 2 speed champion drill press. That would give me 12 speeds!

Joe K · 11-14-2023, 04:34 PM

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No practical use for it, other than belting to my old blacksmith drill, perhaps.

Actually, several internal gears on the commonly used machine tool "Drive-All" are the same gears used in the Model A.

Three forward speeds - no reverse.

Joe K

Joe K · 11-14-2023, 04:46 PM

I have often thought that a "Dual High" could be incorporated into a torque tube - but done "backwards" to offer an overdrive.

By the time you are done, you may as well buy a Mitchell Tranny.

I have observed that the dual high seems most closely associated with the three speed Model A transmission. By the time the four speed was offered, the low end gears were considered low enough so the dual high wasn't required.

Instead by then everyone was buying a Warford for the Model AA - which offered an overdrive.

The special parts to mate the Warford unit to the Model AA were included in the "Green Book" (1947) Including the special mix/match universal joint.

Joe K

jimTN · 11-14-2023, 04:52 PM

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It has been done with success. There was a NC legendary stovebolt back in the 50s that had a set up like that that was fast then.

1952henry · 11-14-2023, 05:11 PM

I’ve seen threads on the HAMB where people have contemplated running it backwards. Didn’t see that anyone did. I just have a soft spot for the old iron. And here I am trying to deplete my wares….

Ray in La Mesa · 11-15-2023, 09:52 AM

A member in our club had a '30 coupe with a "reversed" dual high trans he ran for 30 years with no problems. He has since passed away.

Gene F · 11-15-2023, 04:39 PM

These must have been ideal for local service trucks in the day. Like coal deliveries, and tow trucks.

11-14-2023, 03:32 PM	#2
emf Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Hudson, NY Posts: 511	Re: Model AA 3 speed and auxillary That second gear box is a Ford Dual-Hi that was married with the three speed transmission from a Ford car. Standard issue for 28's and early 29's. The Dual High gave you an under-drive. Frank

11-14-2023, 03:56 PM	#3
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,621	Re: Model AA 3 speed and auxillary Thanks, that what I understand. Just couldn’t let it go to the torch and come back as a Turdota. May find a way to belt it to my old 2 speed champion drill press. That would give me 12 speeds! __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

11-14-2023, 04:46 PM	#5
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: Model AA 3 speed and auxillary I have often thought that a "Dual High" could be incorporated into a torque tube - but done "backwards" to offer an overdrive. By the time you are done, you may as well buy a Mitchell Tranny. I have observed that the dual high seems most closely associated with the three speed Model A transmission. By the time the four speed was offered, the low end gears were considered low enough so the dual high wasn't required. Instead by then everyone was buying a Warford for the Model AA - which offered an overdrive. The special parts to mate the Warford unit to the Model AA were included in the "Green Book" (1947) Including the special mix/match universal joint. Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse. Last edited by Joe K; 11-14-2023 at 04:59 PM.

11-14-2023, 04:52 PM	#6
jimTN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Powell, TN Posts: 2,509	Re: Model AA 3 speed and auxillary Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) It has been done with success. There was a NC legendary stovebolt back in the 50s that had a set up like that that was fast then.

11-14-2023, 05:11 PM	#7
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,621	Re: Model AA 3 speed and auxillary I’ve seen threads on the HAMB where people have contemplated running it backwards. Didn’t see that anyone did. I just have a soft spot for the old iron. And here I am trying to deplete my wares…. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

11-15-2023, 09:52 AM	#8
Ray in La Mesa Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: La Mesa Ca Posts: 1,166	Re: Model AA 3 speed and auxillary A member in our club had a '30 coupe with a "reversed" dual high trans he ran for 30 years with no problems. He has since passed away.

11-15-2023, 04:39 PM	#9
Gene F Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,973	Re: Model AA 3 speed and auxillary These must have been ideal for local service trucks in the day. Like coal deliveries, and tow trucks.