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03-22-2015, 02:16 PM | #1 |
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Flathead Top Oiler
What are your thoughts or anyone using a top oiler system? if so what are the benefits and truth to this, engine performance, draw backs, better mileage, less wear on parts. Here is a link to item in question.
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03-22-2015, 02:39 PM | #2 |
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I'm running the AMPCO top oilers, with MMO, on both my '39 CS and '39 LZ. It stopped a valve 'tic' in my '39 CS after about a week of use. It won't increase your horsepower, or give you better mileage, (in my experience) however, it does appear to help keep the valves quite. You also need to install the spacer between the intake and carb so, that could help keep the carb cooler, a good thing if your car/truck is prone to the dreaded Vapor Lock. I'm sure you'll get the usual naysayers here, claiming that MMO and the top oilers are 'snake oil' and will do absolutely nothing for your Flathead... My suggestion is to try it... and see for yourself.
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03-22-2015, 08:08 PM | #3 |
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I use MMO in all my old Fords. I have Ampco and MMO oilers on some. BUT your better off putting it in the fuel tank if you DO IT with EVERY refill. Injected it only go's
in the engine. In the gas it can clean the tank, fuel lines, pump and carb before it gets to the engine. G.M.
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I agree with George. I forgot to mention that I use MMO in the gas tank as well.
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how much do you put in a gallon or tank full??
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I can understand introducing MMO in the fuel tank now and then to keep some parts cleaner, however, with today's modern fuels and oils, there is even less benefit to adding this type of products as there was decades ago (think leaded gasoline). Maintaining clean oil and a clean air filter is the best thing you can do to add longevity to your engine. One (major) good thing about modern unleaded fuel is its ability to keep your engine clean.
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03-23-2015, 07:11 PM | #7 |
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Boy , I could not agree with you more KUBES .
I never liked engine additives, nor will I use them. The best preventative maintenance you can do is to keep your oil clean , and use the proper viscosity . I just tore apart a motor that was in a work truck , that I know for a fact had the oil changed every 5 k and the inside of that motor including the valve train was like it was pulled from the assembly line. |
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Amen to that Hoop! Most, if not all, of the naysayers here don't drive their Flatheads, except to put them on and off a trailer... The only way to gain knowledge and experience, as to the validity of any product, is to actually use it in a daily driver. Like I said in my first post on this thread, my suggestion is to try it... and see for yourself.
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I put MMO in the gas tank with every fill up...........Bob
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Maybe the naysayers engines don't run smooth enough to know if the valves are slightly sticking or not??? G.M.
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To simply "use a product" proves nothing unless there is an established with which to compare.
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Kube, just curious; why do you think I was referring to you? But, if the shoe fits... I've been using MMO in Flatheads for almost 50 years, in original high millage, as well as fresh rebuilds, and I'm happy with the results, even though I'm not a Mechanical Engineer. I reiterate, I suggested that the questioner try it for himself, rather then rely on the opinions of others, including Mechanical Engineers and/or Shadetree Mechanics. So sorry if you were offended...
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Your answer herein once again proves nothing as you have nothing to make an even comparison to.
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Nothing to compare it to??? How about sticking valves that no longer stick after an application of MMO? If that's not a valid comparison, I don't know what is... Point is; MMO works for me, and has for almost 50 years. What is your opinion based on? Have you ever even used MMO?
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My experience? Many years of formal training, two degrees and a state indentured apprenticeship. Plus, the "real world" experience of having repaired and / or rebuilt quite literally 100's of engines. I have used a few additives throughout the past decades and a couple - only a couple, have performed as advertised. I have never used an additive as a "regular" treatment, preferring to build my engines correctly and maintaining them in a likewise way.
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So, let me get this straight Kube, you are admitting that MMO solved the mechanical issue with my Flathead? In other words, you are agreeing that MMO works as advertised...? Well, I guess that settles it! You are my Hero and, the absolute authority on all things Flathead... And, I guess, the only one who knows how to build and maintain them correctly... Wow, how have all the rest of us, who build, maintain and DRIVE our Flatheads, been able to do it for so long, without possessing all your self professed knowledge and expertise??? It must be a miracle...
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I'm not taking any sides here but I have to say this thread is very entertaining. Better than my favorite tv show "finding Big Foot" which btw - watch the next episode I'm told they really see one ----- lol
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Kool!
An old fashioned pissing contest! If you like it, use it If not, then don't What's so hard about that? |
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Aye, you bet! I heard the caught him on one of them 'ghost cameras' using a diving rod to find some underground water! Can't wait!
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Yes, and I think they got Big Foot on video tape, putting MMO into the gas tank of a Flathead Ford Truck he uses in the woods... LOL
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