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DougVieyra · 07-14-2014, 01:50 PM

As I grow older, and immortality is fading away, I am becoming a bit more safety conscious. Hence, I am now beginning to look into adding a second tail lite (passenger side) to my '28 Phaeton. Because it has a large trunk mounted where the rear spare normally would sit, the existing single tail lite is often times not visible.

So I am soliciting information from those of you who HAVE actually mounted a second tail lite to the body of a '28 Tudor or Phaeton (these are different brackets from the '28 coupe / roadster). In particular, the fit of the new cast-iron brackets, to the body. The bracket that I have does not fit the body as well as I believe it should. Is there some grinding / filing that needs to be done to get a proper fit to the body ?
What have others done to fit this bracket to the car's body, lower belt ?

I would be grateful for any help with this question.

Roadster62 · 07-14-2014, 02:39 PM

Ther was one on a customers car that looked very nice. It was a year ago and I forget the details, but the original on the left has captive nuts I believe, the added one had long bolts and nuts on the back side. You have to drill through two sections of the rear rail I believe. I'd drill one, fit the bracket and check the alignment, before drilling the other two. Bob

d.j. moordigian · 07-14-2014, 02:51 PM

Think about "nutserts"............

DougVieyra · 07-14-2014, 05:13 PM

Thanks guys. I am aware of the mounting fasteners; however, it is the actual metal to metal fit of bracket base to body surface, that I am actually concerned with. That is where my bracket does not fit closely and firmly to the body. Are there two (or three) different makers of these brackets ? Or is there only one source, and the bracket mounting base must be custom shaped to closely fit the body contour ?

pooch · 07-14-2014, 05:30 PM

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Try to source one from Australia/ NZ .

It will fit perfectly on the right side.

I drilled my USA left one right through, as I was not sure I would trust the nutserts in an 86 year old single layer of sheetmetal .

Car is a driver, so nuts showing inside was not an issue.

07-14-2014, 01:50 PM	#1
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Passenger side Tail-lite on '28 Phaeton As I grow older, and immortality is fading away, I am becoming a bit more safety conscious. Hence, I am now beginning to look into adding a second tail lite (passenger side) to my '28 Phaeton. Because it has a large trunk mounted where the rear spare normally would sit, the existing single tail lite is often times not visible. So I am soliciting information from those of you who HAVE actually mounted a second tail lite to the body of a '28 Tudor or Phaeton (these are different brackets from the '28 coupe / roadster). In particular, the fit of the new cast-iron brackets, to the body. The bracket that I have does not fit the body as well as I believe it should. Is there some grinding / filing that needs to be done to get a proper fit to the body ? What have others done to fit this bracket to the car's body, lower belt ? I would be grateful for any help with this question. Last edited by DougVieyra; 07-14-2014 at 01:59 PM.

07-14-2014, 02:39 PM	#2
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,443	Re: Passenger side Tail-lite on '28 Phaeton Ther was one on a customers car that looked very nice. It was a year ago and I forget the details, but the original on the left has captive nuts I believe, the added one had long bolts and nuts on the back side. You have to drill through two sections of the rear rail I believe. I'd drill one, fit the bracket and check the alignment, before drilling the other two. Bob __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.

07-14-2014, 02:51 PM	#3
d.j. moordigian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fresno, Ca. Posts: 3,636	Re: Passenger side Tail-lite on '28 Phaeton Think about "nutserts"............

07-14-2014, 05:13 PM	#4
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Passenger side Tail-lite on '28 Phaeton Thanks guys. I am aware of the mounting fasteners; however, it is the actual metal to metal fit of bracket base to body surface, that I am actually concerned with. That is where my bracket does not fit closely and firmly to the body. Are there two (or three) different makers of these brackets ? Or is there only one source, and the bracket mounting base must be custom shaped to closely fit the body contour ?

07-14-2014, 05:30 PM	#5
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: Passenger side Tail-lite on '28 Phaeton Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Try to source one from Australia/ NZ . It will fit perfectly on the right side. I drilled my USA left one right through, as I was not sure I would trust the nutserts in an 86 year old single layer of sheetmetal . Car is a driver, so nuts showing inside was not an issue.