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bmwillia · 12-01-2014, 11:21 AM

I did a search but could not find the info I was looking for, so if it is out there I missed it.

What is the best way to attach an engine hoist to a flathead to remove it?

Should I attach it to the intake where the carb mounts? Should I remove the intake and attach directly to the block?

Thanks in advance!

Brad

4tford · 12-01-2014, 11:28 AM

remove the intake

Mart · 12-01-2014, 11:53 AM

I bought an engine leveller and it's a great piece of kit. It had 4 chains and L brackets. I lengthened the chains by 2 or 3 links and use 4 longish 3/8 bolts, one at each corner of the inlet manifold. I don't tighten the bolts down, just thread them in well.

It lifts the motor easily and the extra length of the chains allows clearance for dual 94's on a Thickstun hi-rise.

I'd recommend it.

For lifting just a block I also made a very simple device, just a 10" length of angle iron, that is wide enough to feed into the valley, but not slip out if held centrally. A loop welded in the middle of the outside of the Vee allows the hook of the chain hoist to slip in easily.

I'd recommend either of these devices.

Mart.

KendraFowles · 12-01-2014, 11:57 AM

Bought mine from Stumpy's Fab Works.
http://stumpysfabworks.weebly.com/lift-plates-misc.html

bmwillia · 12-01-2014, 01:39 PM

Thanks for the ideas Mart.

Ken,

I was thinking about fabbing up something like that. I wonder if that one will match up with a 1935 21 stud engine.

Brad

Don Rogers · 12-01-2014, 01:41 PM

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Stumpy's also makes this attachment. Very simple and easy to use.

Andy · 12-01-2014, 01:46 PM

I had headers so they were off when pulling. I put bolts in the exhaust bolt holes and used straps to a leveler.

john in illinois · 12-01-2014, 01:59 PM

I use a 6' nylon strap around motor. By positioning in front or back of center of intake manifold,I can lift with or without transmission.

John

Mart · 12-01-2014, 02:30 PM

Be careful with straps, the motor can roll out of them.

Here's the leveller with the extended chains.

The one I made with the angle iron was copied from a thread on the hamb (home made tools)

Mart.

Ronnie · 12-01-2014, 05:09 PM

This will fit your needs.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?tag=dealao-20
R

oldford2 · 12-01-2014, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwillia

I did a search but could not find the info I was looking for, so if it is out there I missed it.

What is the best way to attach an engine hoist to a flathead to remove it?

Should I attach it to the intake where the carb mounts? Should I remove the intake and attach directly to the block?

Thanks in advance!

Brad

Come on Fellas, this not rocket science! Just bolt a short chain in a front and back opposite intake manifold holes. Just did it this morning and no problem. Too many gadgets out there to waste your $$ on.
John

CT AV8 · 12-01-2014, 05:53 PM

I agree with John (Old Ford 2). We did it the same way, chain bolted diagonally and it works fine. And we were in and out many times getting mounts and stuff located.

john in illinois · 12-01-2014, 06:18 PM

Mart, not clear in picture but I use strap as a choker,no way to slip out. I have lifted Ts As and flatheads. Maybe not the best,but simple.

John

supereal · 12-01-2014, 06:40 PM

For over sixty years I have been using a home made flathead lifter. It is a length of chain with tabs welded to each end. These tabs, of half inch bar stock, are drilled on the ends to accomodate a head bolt on each end, with the holes recessed to allow the head nuts mpre thread.

JM 35 Sedan · 12-01-2014, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldford2

Come on Fellas, this not rocket science! Just bolt a short chain in a front and back opposite intake manifold holes. Just did it this morning and no problem. Too many gadgets out there to waste your $$ on.
John

John, no wonder your engine came out so easily. You have a great helper there guiding the entire operation!

47Merc · 12-01-2014, 07:36 PM

Show us the other end of your engine lifter Oldford2. It looks a bit sturdier than my cheap china job.

bmwillia · 12-01-2014, 08:03 PM

Thanks for the advice everyone!

I just didn't want to lift it in a way that would cause damage to anything and make sure what i did would hold. I think I'll try Oldford2's method.

Thanks again!

oldford2 · 12-01-2014, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 47Merc

Show us the other end of your engine lifter Oldford2. It looks a bit sturdier than my cheap china job.

Yes, it is heavy duty old time made in USA. The legs and arms extend out much farther. And all parts unbolt and stores in the corner until the next time.

Merc Cruzer · 12-02-2014, 10:35 AM

With the heads off it was easy.

El Rat · 12-02-2014, 05:59 PM

I made a plate that covers the entire valley. I drilled 5 or 6 holes in the center from mid-way to the back and welded nuts on the back side, I use a threaded eye bolt and screw it in the hole that gives me the engine attitude I want. The extra holes allow me to adjust for block, block and clutch, block and tranny...etc.
Also is a great dust cover when intake is off...just sayin! g

12-01-2014, 11:21 AM	#1
bmwillia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 457	Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead I did a search but could not find the info I was looking for, so if it is out there I missed it. What is the best way to attach an engine hoist to a flathead to remove it? Should I attach it to the intake where the carb mounts? Should I remove the intake and attach directly to the block? Thanks in advance! Brad __________________ Brad Williamson

12-01-2014, 11:28 AM	#2
4tford Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Regina Canada Posts: 1,335	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead remove the intake

12-01-2014, 11:53 AM	#3
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,754	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead I bought an engine leveller and it's a great piece of kit. It had 4 chains and L brackets. I lengthened the chains by 2 or 3 links and use 4 longish 3/8 bolts, one at each corner of the inlet manifold. I don't tighten the bolts down, just thread them in well. It lifts the motor easily and the extra length of the chains allows clearance for dual 94's on a Thickstun hi-rise. I'd recommend it. For lifting just a block I also made a very simple device, just a 10" length of angle iron, that is wide enough to feed into the valley, but not slip out if held centrally. A loop welded in the middle of the outside of the Vee allows the hook of the chain hoist to slip in easily. I'd recommend either of these devices. Mart.

12-01-2014, 01:39 PM	#5
bmwillia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 457	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead Thanks for the ideas Mart. Ken, I was thinking about fabbing up something like that. I wonder if that one will match up with a 1935 21 stud engine. Brad __________________ Brad Williamson

12-01-2014, 01:46 PM	#7
Andy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 2,770	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead I had headers so they were off when pulling. I put bolts in the exhaust bolt holes and used straps to a leveler.

12-01-2014, 02:30 PM	#9
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,754	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead Be careful with straps, the motor can roll out of them. Here's the leveller with the extended chains. The one I made with the angle iron was copied from a thread on the hamb (home made tools) Mart.

12-01-2014, 05:09 PM	#10
Ronnie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Where it snows Posts: 2,058	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead This will fit your needs. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?tag=dealao-20 R

12-01-2014, 05:53 PM	#12
CT AV8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cos Cob, CT Posts: 295	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead I agree with John (Old Ford 2). We did it the same way, chain bolted diagonally and it works fine. And we were in and out many times getting mounts and stuff located.

12-01-2014, 06:18 PM	#13
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,184	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead Mart, not clear in picture but I use strap as a choker,no way to slip out. I have lifted Ts As and flatheads. Maybe not the best,but simple. John

12-01-2014, 06:40 PM	#14
supereal Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead For over sixty years I have been using a home made flathead lifter. It is a length of chain with tabs welded to each end. These tabs, of half inch bar stock, are drilled on the ends to accomodate a head bolt on each end, with the holes recessed to allow the head nuts mpre thread.

12-01-2014, 07:36 PM	#16
47Merc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 362	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead Show us the other end of your engine lifter Oldford2. It looks a bit sturdier than my cheap china job.

12-01-2014, 08:03 PM	#17
bmwillia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 457	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead Thanks for the advice everyone! I just didn't want to lift it in a way that would cause damage to anything and make sure what i did would hold. I think I'll try Oldford2's method. Thanks again! __________________ Brad Williamson

12-02-2014, 05:59 PM	#20
El Rat Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 260	Re: Where to attach hoist to pull a flathead I made a plate that covers the entire valley. I drilled 5 or 6 holes in the center from mid-way to the back and welded nuts on the back side, I use a threaded eye bolt and screw it in the hole that gives me the engine attitude I want. The extra holes allow me to adjust for block, block and clutch, block and tranny...etc. Also is a great dust cover when intake is off...just sayin! g