Dilbert on Restoring Old Cars (and other garbage)

[Old Henry]

A guy and church choir practice today handed me this Dilbert comic that he thought was pretty darn funny. What do you think?

[39topless]

i love wally

[Mart]

Typical outsiders view of us.

My daughter was quite a few years through school before she realised other kids dads didn't have a garage full of old american cars and hot rods. (I'm in England).

Mart.

[SofaKing]

I like it.

[34fordy]

If Wally ever gets a whiff of 80 year old oil/grease mixed with mouse pee he will be hooked just like the rest of us--Um-Um--I love it!!!

[hotrodA]

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Perfect!!
Thanks for sharing that, I've sent it to my car buds.

[petehoovie]

I use to work with a guy like Wally. He use to boast about his lack of work ethic. - he did absolutely nothing except to show up. His wages were identical to mine. He was a strong 'union man'. He referred to the rest of us as fools because we actually worked. Reflecting back, I can't help but feel he may have been right. I hate Wally....

[37coop]

My cousin a daily golfer,costing him a fortune used to laugh at me with my classic cars and bikes ...always in that dirty old garage he used to smirk, well his knees ,hips etc have made him give up his hobby and he sold his equipment for pennies ,when I am forced to sell or my family need to we/they will do very nicely thank you and I get serious pleasure with the family with car shows etc ,his family were at home while he spent his hobby without them ....each to their own but some people just cant accept that ,

[34fordy]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

I use to work with a guy like Wally. He use to boast about his lack of work ethic. - he did absolutely nothing except to show up. His wages were identical to mine. He was a strong 'union man'. He referred to the rest of us as fools because we actually worked. Reflecting back, I can't help but feel he may have been right. I hate Wally....

He was not a strong "union man" to me Pete--He cared only for himself--
I believe a strong union man WORKS for the good of all men--Just because you pay dues does not make you a union man in your heart and mind--

[51 MERC-CT]

Yep, this was my take on this 3 years ago in this forum.

[waterboychuck]

Funny

[Lawson Cox]

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

Yep, this was my take on this 3 years ago in this forum.

NOW I LIKE IT. Before it didn't do much for me.

[LOU WELLS]

My olde Fords have been refered to as "junk" many times over the last 50 years but I still go out to the shop in the evening and enjoy their faithful company!

[fortyfords]

Originally Posted by 34fordy

He was not a strong "union man" to me Pete--He cared only for himself--
I believe a strong union man WORKS for the good of all men--Just because you pay dues does not make you a union man in your heart and mind--

I agree with 34fordy, not a real union man at all.

[mhsprecher]

I think the edits make it better. I am sure the Chevy guys have put Ford in its place.

I have worked a lot of places where there are people who avoid work, but still get paid. There are some who get ahead that way. I have always had a strong work ethic, maybe foolishly.

One of my first jobs was in a gas station and you never wanted the owner to find you not doing something. Whether it was that or something else that made me the way that I am, I don't know, but many people are not that way.

[34fordy]

Originally Posted by mhsprecher

I think the edits make it better. I am sure the Chevy guys have put Ford in its place.

I have worked a lot of places where there are people who avoid work, but still get paid. There are some who get ahead that way. I have always had a strong work ethic, maybe foolishly.

One of my first jobs was in a gas station and you never wanted the owner to find you not doing something. Whether it was that or something else that made me the way that I am, I don't know, but many people are not that way.

I believe a good "work ethic" is learned--Usually starts with parents teaching it in the home--However, the gas station owner probably had a positive influence on you as a young man also--Never foolish to do your best at anything--

[39topless]

As a kid, I remember hearing the term "learn how to work". A very valuable skill to learn indeed.

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by LOU WELLS

My olde Fords have been refered to as "junk" many times over the last 50 years but I still go out to the shop in the evening and enjoy their faithful company!

I guess all forms of entertainment are a waste of time.
But being able to develop talents to restore, re-build, renew seem like less garbage than watching football!

[APDAVE]

One day I went for a ride in my 32 ,when I stopped at a red light a friend and his son pulled next to me and we greeted each other. The next day at work he told me his son asked him dosent he work the same place as you why does he drive that old junk ?

[RalphM]

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

Yep, this was my take on this 3 years ago in this forum.

Now that's funny!

[FrankWest]

Without sounding corny, Restoring any antique car develops a person into a resourceful, focused person. You develop skills that few people have in today's smart phone world.
You become innovators, thinkers, doers, people that can get a difficult task done not just button pushers. You work with all types of materials and processes, Learn the use of tools and specialized processes. Drill, tap, weld, paint, sew, metallurgy, electronics, lubrication, engines...In short, you develop everything needed to actually build the things that the "smart" button pushes could not live without.
We sure can get a lot out of junk, and garbage. That shows how dumb we are.
The button pushes would just throw it away...Maybe they should sit in a cave.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by APDAVE

One day I went for a ride in my 32 ,when I stopped at a red light a friend and his son pulled next to me and we greeted each other. The next day at work he told me his son asked him doesn't he work the same place as you why does he drive that old junk ?

When I'm asked this question, I respond: "If Social Security paid me better, I'd be able to afford a newer car."....

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

When I'm asked this question, I respond: "If Social Security paid me better, I'd be able to afford a newer car."....

Very Funny...
It's sad that the general population is so dumb.
Think of it..How often do you see an antique car, especially 1932-35
never...
My 1933 is the first car of these early 30's car that I have ever seen and I am 67 years old.
I have seen Model A's but never any 32-35 fords on the road.
You would think that those idiots would realize that these are rare and very valuable and not JUNK.

[39topless]

These cars just don't "fit" in the traffic found on today's roads. Too slow, crappy lights, no turn signals, etc. The owners are afraid to drive theses cars much. Sunny Sunday afternoons and parades. I still use hand turn signals knowing that probably 75% of the other drivers have no idea what the hell I'm doing.

[ursus]

Just realize that Wally is a lazy SOB and Dilbert is an engineer. All the engineers I know are so binary in their thought processes that restoring an old car makes no sense at all - they only build new and when that fails they build another new thing. To them, restoring an old car is an attempt to correct failure on so many levels that just can't wrap their minds around it.

[Drbrown]

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The comic strip "Dilbert" is my favorite. Unfortunately for Wally, he was created from the dregs of a garbage can to represent "the uncaring others".

[Mart]

Originally Posted by ursus

Just realize that Wally is a lazy SOB and Dilbert is an engineer. All the engineers I know are so binary in their thought processes that restoring an old car makes no sense at all - they only build new and when that fails they build another new thing. To them, restoring an old car is an attempt to correct failure on so many levels that just can't wrap their minds around it.

I don't agree at all. I am an engineer and I love working on old cars and machines.

Engineer is such a broad term you can't make such a statement.

I am proud to call myself an engineer. I didn't realise people thought all engineers are "binary".

Mart.

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by 34fordy

He was not a strong "union man" to me Pete--He cared only for himself--
I believe a strong union man WORKS for the good of all men--Just because you pay dues does not make you a union man in your heart and mind--

There's a big difference between a "strong" union man and typical union man. A "typical" union man only works enough to get by and will go as far as physical violence against a man who does an honest day's work. The typical union man has the "it's not my job" mentality. Example: If he's in the carpenter's union and a light bulb burns out, he will refuse to change it and will sit on his butt until someone from the electrician's union finally shows up to change it. The carpenter who dares to change the light bulb himself is likely to end up in the hospital. Or the "typical" union man will file a 'grievance' over petty issues just to get his way, not caring if production suffers.

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by 39topless

These cars just don't "fit" in the traffic found on today's roads. Too slow, crappy lights, no turn signals, etc. The owners are afraid to drive theses cars much. Sunny Sunday afternoons and parades. I still use hand turn signals knowing that probably 75% of the other drivers have no idea what the hell I'm doing.

Au contraire. At least my 47 Fordor is just as serviceable on the road now as it was "back in the day". I drive it every day 1,000 miles per month. I still use hand signals during the day and do get a kick out of seeing if anyone really knows what they mean (most don't). I've just decided to do a 5,000 mile round trip to Alaska in May while my wife is gone babysitting grandkids for a couple of weeks. That is in a totally bone stock, down to the bias ply tires, automobile.

[Lawrie]

Henry,thats the go,We are going to the nationals in april in the 33,should be away for about 4 weeks and we will do about 6000klms with all our side trips.
Lawrie

[petehoovie]

Why own them if you can't/don't drive them???

[39topless]

Originally Posted by Old Henry

Au contraire. At least my 47 Fordor is just as serviceable on the road now as it was "back in the day". I drive it every day 1,000 miles per month. I still use hand signals during the day and do get a kick out of seeing if anyone really knows what they mean (most don't). I've just decided to do a 5,000 mile round trip to Alaska in May while my wife is gone babysitting grandkids for a couple of weeks. That is in a totally bone stock, down to the bias ply tires, automobile.

I was just responding to Frank West's question as to why he never sees any 33-35 fords on the road. I drive my, basic stock, 39 almost every day. Seems like this forum has gotten so "sensitive" you can't say a thing without someone being offended. Lighten up boys!

[Lawson Cox]

Amen. Preach on brother.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 39topless

I was just responding to Frank West's question as to why he never sees any 33-35 fords on the road. I drive my, basic stock, 39 almost every day. Seems like this forum has gotten so "sensitive" you can't say a thing without someone being offended. Lighten up boys!

Offended??? Who's offended? Which post did you get that from?

BTW - Other than the styling and brakes, there's not much difference in driving between the '33-34's and your '39....

[FrankWest]

I think model A's are common and I have seen them throughout my 67 years.
But the later fords I have never seen. Only once, when I was 8 years old the old man that own our apartment building in NYC drove a 1933 olds, as identified by my father. I remember playing on the running board. That was in 1957! I have always lived near or in large cities. From New York City and it suburbs, LA and philly and have never seen any 1932-1940 cars.
But I have often seen model A's .

[rowens55]

Originally Posted by ralphm

now that's funny!

highlarious!!!!!

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by Mart

I don't agree at all. I am an engineer and I love working on old cars and machines.

Engineer is such a broad term you can't make such a statement.

I am proud to call myself an engineer. I didn't realise people thought all engineers are "binary".

Mart.

Mart..The things you build are incredible. You are much more than a mere engineer.. You are an innovator, designer.. resourceful builder that is worthy to work with all the great inventors of all time. I am a physicist/engineer from Hughes Aircraft Company.
and have worked with many aerospace engineers from the innovators to the to the paper pusher variety. The paper pusher variety..talk big..but cannot operate a screw driver.
You are a creator..something very unique. You are the type of engineer that Hughes sought after to create his inventions.

[RalphM]

Originally Posted by Old Henry

Au contraire. At least my 47 Fordor is just as serviceable on the road now as it was "back in the day". I drive it every day 1,000 miles per month. I still use hand signals during the day and do get a kick out of seeing if anyone really knows what they mean (most don't). I've just decided to do a 5,000 mile round trip to Alaska in May while my wife is gone babysitting grandkids for a couple of weeks. That is in a totally bone stock, down to the bias ply tires, automobile.

Well Old Henry, if you decide to come up to North Pole(I assume you have to come and visit the Santa Claus House) and need anything while your here, drop me a pm. I have plenty of spare parts, especially 46-48's.
Ralph

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by Old Henry

Au contraire. At least my 47 Fordor is just as serviceable on the road now as it was "back in the day". I drive it every day 1,000 miles per month. I still use hand signals during the day and do get a kick out of seeing if anyone really knows what they mean (most don't). I've just decided to do a 5,000 mile round trip to Alaska in May while my wife is gone babysitting grandkids for a couple of weeks. That is in a totally bone stock, down to the bias ply tires, automobile.

Right! The 1932 and newer ford are more compatible to today's traffic and roads than are Model A's. Yet, I see Model A's on the roads and not these faster fords? Maybe they are too expensive.

[CharlieLed]

I too am an engineer and proud of it. There is an art to the profession, an ability to think outside the box to transform requirements into an elegant solution. Since this is a Dilbert thread I offer this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmYDgncMhXw

[CJ Meyers]

+1, I'm also an engineer. I've restored old cars, audio equipment, toy trains and even an original civil war cannon.

And I love Dilbert.

If an engineer isn't interested in mechanics and things that 'go' he doesn't deserve to own the title.

I had a friend tell me that her son was going to school for engineering. I asked 'does he like to take stuff apart and see how it works?'

No.

He dropped out of engineering and went into criminal justice.

I wouldn't hire an engineer if he didn't know which end of a wrench, screw driver or soldering iron to hold.

[FrankWest]

Howard Hughes was one of those kids that had the Knack but Hughes also inherited the
money along with it.
When Howard Hughes was 10 years old he took apart a Model T and then re assembled it.
At 12 he built the first radio transmitter in Houston Texas.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by petehoovie

I use to work with a guy like Wally. He use to boast about his lack of work ethic. - he did absolutely nothing except to show up. His wages were identical to mine. He was a strong 'union man'. He referred to the rest of us as fools because we actually worked. Reflecting back, I can't help but feel he may have been right. I hate Wally....

Isn't that always the way? The one's who are the most entrenched in the union do so because they need the protection.

If left unchecked, it can suck the life right out of place or shop.

Sometimes they are their own worst enemy.

[CharlieLed]

Originally Posted by CJ Meyers

I wouldn't hire an engineer if he didn't know which end of a wrench, screw driver or soldering iron to hold.

Many years ago when I was working my way up the food chain I had been promoted to Branch Head of a group of engineers and techs. My boss was the division head and his boss was the Technical Director (TD). I worked more for the TD than my director so it wasn't surprising to see him give me direct tasking. One day as I was going from the office to one of the labs the TD saw me and told me to get that screwdriver out of my back pocket, I was a Branch Head now and that wasn't appropriate. HA!
Book learning will only take you so far...a real engineer can make his vision a reality.

[FrankWest]

Originally Posted by CharlieLed

Many years ago when I was working my way up the food chain I had been promoted to Branch Head of a group of engineers and techs. My boss was the division head and his boss was the Technical Director (TD). I worked more for the TD than my director so it wasn't surprising to see him give me direct tasking. One day as I was going from the office to one of the labs the TD saw me and told me to get that screwdriver out of my back pocket, I was a Branch Head now and that wasn't appropriate. HA!
Book learning will only take you so far...a real engineer can make his vision a reality.

When I worked for Hughes, I met a ex WW2 German Dr..Rocket specialist..
The guy looked like Sargent Schultz from Hogan's Heroes. But he didn't know nothin...This rocket scientist knew physics like a Nobel prize winner. He used to write division memos that nobody could follow..Managers and scientists alike. We talked often and he said, a real scientist/engineer should know how to operate a screw driver as well as differential equations otherwise they are severely handicapped in any technology Enterprise that builds hardware.