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Ed in Maine · 08-16-2022, 11:05 AM

I just opened my gallon can of TCP Global, DTM Epoxy Prime/Seal (Part A) and I find it very settled in the bottom of the can and difficult to stir. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I purchased it in August, 2019. Has this primer exceeded its shelf life?

What a waste, there is about 3/4 of the paint left. Just a warning, don't buy too much of this product. Ed

HDowse · 08-16-2022, 11:55 AM

Hi Ed, I don’t have specific info on the TCP primer but every primer I’ve used does settle and needs quite a bit of stirring. You can buy a rig that goes in a drill that helps a lot. If you’ve used one you know not to raise the unit out of the paint while the drill is running.
Also, I often take an old can of primer or paint to my local hardware store and they put it in their paint shaker upper rig. As far as shelf life it’s probably just fine but others will chime on.

SwampLedge · 08-16-2022, 12:40 PM

This year I shot some epoxy primer (Eastwood branded) that I bought in 2019. The primer itself is pretty thick and settles out well in a matter of just a week or so. A drill attachment stirrer makes short work of remixing it.

The catalyst/hardener that I purchased with the primer seemed just a bit “off” to me, and the primer took overnight ( and a little longer where I applied it a bit heavy) to cure, which I didn't like. So I ordered up a new can of catalyst and all iis well since.

gdmn852 · 08-16-2022, 12:46 PM

Hello, I found that it is best to manual stir and get some of the bottom material mixed up, had a paint stirring device with plastic blades that promptly broke off on 1 st use .Epoxy primer does work well for sealing,doesn’t sand well but it’s not meant for a filler primer. I would think it is still good as long as stored where it doesn’t freeze.

tmiller6 · 08-16-2022, 01:41 PM

I had similar issues with a new can of Summit epoxy primer. Wooden stirrers broke off when I tried to mix it. I ended up buying a pneumatic paint shaker to stir it.

chrs1961815 · 08-16-2022, 02:05 PM

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Most likely caused by waiting so long to use it. You are better off stirring it every once in a while if not.

BTW, SPI epoxy primer is probably the best you can buy and certainly better than anything from Eastwood or Summit.

CA Victoria · 08-16-2022, 04:50 PM

Heavy solids.....My Kirker primer needed a good shake when it arrived. Even so when let to stand for a few days the solids settled out.
Take it to your local hardware store to put in their shaker.

duke36 · 08-16-2022, 06:56 PM

Contact TCP and ask if they have something to reduce it ? Some use Acetone or Xylene.

Ed in Maine · 08-17-2022, 03:13 PM

I want to thank all you guys that responded to my question about the settled primer. This afternoon I got back into the can with a 14 in. heavy screw driver and started to move the heavy solids in the bottom of the can. I broke up the solids into pieces and then started to move them around. It took me 45 minutes of stirring but the epoxy primer started to move and is now back to normal! I was about to throw out the mess. You just saved me $140.00. Thanks again. Ed

Cabbie.a12 · 08-18-2022, 09:01 PM

I painted my 54 with TCP Global Acrylic 12 years ago. It was a single stage, that went down super smooth, and has lasted all these years sitting outside. I would recommend their paint to anyone. Granted it was 12 years ago, I painted my car 2 tone for less than $600 in supplies, and paint.

Dodge · 08-22-2022, 02:29 AM

I don't know if anyone else does this, but for us hobbyists that don't paint all the time
and keep the paint for a long time. I shoot a little nitrogen into the paint can as I put
the top on it. It seems to keep the paint from kicking off in the can.
My 2 cents....

Fhane · 08-22-2022, 07:37 AM

I store my paint upside down, both spray and canned. When I get ready to use the product I turn the can right side up a day or so ahead of time, if it has been stored a long time. I have seen spray cans stored right side up and the paint will settle down and the thick part will go into the bottom of the spray tube and seal it. You could shake forever and the paint will stay in the tube. Some time a hard wack downward might clear the tube. Same thing spray lubes and similar items.

08-16-2022, 11:05 AM	#1
Ed in Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cty., ME or Flagler Cty., FL Posts: 1,106	TCP Global Epoxy Primer I just opened my gallon can of TCP Global, DTM Epoxy Prime/Seal (Part A) and I find it very settled in the bottom of the can and difficult to stir. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I purchased it in August, 2019. Has this primer exceeded its shelf life? What a waste, there is about 3/4 of the paint left. Just a warning, don't buy too much of this product. Ed

08-16-2022, 11:55 AM	#2
HDowse Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hancock, New Hampshire Posts: 375	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer Hi Ed, I don’t have specific info on the TCP primer but every primer I’ve used does settle and needs quite a bit of stirring. You can buy a rig that goes in a drill that helps a lot. If you’ve used one you know not to raise the unit out of the paint while the drill is running. Also, I often take an old can of primer or paint to my local hardware store and they put it in their paint shaker upper rig. As far as shelf life it’s probably just fine but others will chime on.

08-16-2022, 12:40 PM	#3
SwampLedge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 40	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer This year I shot some epoxy primer (Eastwood branded) that I bought in 2019. The primer itself is pretty thick and settles out well in a matter of just a week or so. A drill attachment stirrer makes short work of remixing it. The catalyst/hardener that I purchased with the primer seemed just a bit “off” to me, and the primer took overnight ( and a little longer where I applied it a bit heavy) to cure, which I didn't like. So I ordered up a new can of catalyst and all iis well since.

08-16-2022, 12:46 PM	#4
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 689	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer Hello, I found that it is best to manual stir and get some of the bottom material mixed up, had a paint stirring device with plastic blades that promptly broke off on 1 st use .Epoxy primer does work well for sealing,doesn’t sand well but it’s not meant for a filler primer. I would think it is still good as long as stored where it doesn’t freeze.

08-16-2022, 01:41 PM	#5
tmiller6 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Livonia, MI Posts: 197	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer I had similar issues with a new can of Summit epoxy primer. Wooden stirrers broke off when I tried to mix it. I ended up buying a pneumatic paint shaker to stir it.

08-16-2022, 02:05 PM	#6
chrs1961815 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Spring Grove, Illinois Posts: 1,371	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Most likely caused by waiting so long to use it. You are better off stirring it every once in a while if not. BTW, SPI epoxy primer is probably the best you can buy and certainly better than anything from Eastwood or Summit. __________________ "The more things change, the more they stay the same."

08-16-2022, 04:50 PM	#7
CA Victoria Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,113	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer Heavy solids.....My Kirker primer needed a good shake when it arrived. Even so when let to stand for a few days the solids settled out. Take it to your local hardware store to put in their shaker. __________________ Tim Downtown, Ca

08-16-2022, 06:56 PM	#8
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer Contact TCP and ask if they have something to reduce it ? Some use Acetone or Xylene.

08-17-2022, 03:13 PM	#9
Ed in Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cty., ME or Flagler Cty., FL Posts: 1,106	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer I want to thank all you guys that responded to my question about the settled primer. This afternoon I got back into the can with a 14 in. heavy screw driver and started to move the heavy solids in the bottom of the can. I broke up the solids into pieces and then started to move them around. It took me 45 minutes of stirring but the epoxy primer started to move and is now back to normal! I was about to throw out the mess. You just saved me $140.00. Thanks again. Ed

08-18-2022, 09:01 PM	#10
Cabbie.a12 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: DeLand, Florida Posts: 16	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer I painted my 54 with TCP Global Acrylic 12 years ago. It was a single stage, that went down super smooth, and has lasted all these years sitting outside. I would recommend their paint to anyone. Granted it was 12 years ago, I painted my car 2 tone for less than $600 in supplies, and paint. __________________ Thank You, Daniel Nelson 1957 Ford Fairlane, and building a 1931 Ford Roadster Pickup.

08-22-2022, 02:29 AM	#11
Dodge Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sonoma, CA. Posts: 1,497	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer I don't know if anyone else does this, but for us hobbyists that don't paint all the time and keep the paint for a long time. I shoot a little nitrogen into the paint can as I put the top on it. It seems to keep the paint from kicking off in the can. My 2 cents....

08-22-2022, 07:37 AM	#12
Fhane Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stuart Florida Posts: 149	Re: TCP Global Epoxy Primer I store my paint upside down, both spray and canned. When I get ready to use the product I turn the can right side up a day or so ahead of time, if it has been stored a long time. I have seen spray cans stored right side up and the paint will settle down and the thick part will go into the bottom of the spray tube and seal it. You could shake forever and the paint will stay in the tube. Some time a hard wack downward might clear the tube. Same thing spray lubes and similar items.