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forever4 · 12-23-2016, 03:10 AM

All
I am trying to correct or corroborate some information on my web site that I believe is in error.

In Question:

Quote:

RHD engines and vehicles produced in Canada for export to British Empire countries carried typical Canadian engine number prefixes, and the prefix did not indicate if the engine and chassis was configured for RHD or LHD usage.

Can any Australians or New Zealanders provide specific engine number examples of original RHD Canadian Model A engine numbers for me, either here on the thread, or via email?

I would like to correct any errors on my web page, and also better understand the prefixes used which have appeared, both for car and truck Canadian RHD engines.

Additionally, any similar information/examples for Canadian built RHD Model B engines would also be appreciated.
Thank You!

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABenginenumbers.htm

SAJ · 12-23-2016, 04:01 AM

Vince. I have 1930 standard roadster with engine CA53781, body number 7F93 and unknown chassis number.
It has 28 style curved bumpers, oval speedo, Robertson head screws and 7 tooth steering.
My wife has 31 Tudor ( registration papers say 1932) with engine number CA 63283, early style steering column support - not dash mounted- and non-indented firewall. Both are RHD of course
Hope this helps
EDIT. I see the Tudor engine on the reg. Papers is CAI 6087. So the engine must have been changed years ago. The roadster engine seems too early for the car too. I guess many have been changed like this. Probably not much help to you after all!!
SAJ in NZ

patnmand · 12-23-2016, 05:15 AM

My 1928 Phaeton (now in the UK) is a Canadian built Australian car and RHD. The engine number is CA69764.

Interestingly my Uncle's 1928 Open Cab pickup (also Canadian built but from Kenya) has a CAA prefix on the engine, but it doesn't fit your numbering (CAA56418). Any ideas on that?

Synchro909 · 12-23-2016, 05:22 AM

I have a Canadian built 1930 CCPU that was LHD and lived its life in Canada as far as I can tell until only a few years ago. Engine number CA101545
Also have an Australian delivery '29 Phaeton, Canadian built engine CAQ7659

Floats · 12-23-2016, 05:46 AM

Vince,
Are you also interested in South African RHD cars as well?

forever4 · 12-23-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Floats

Vince,
Are you also interested in South African RHD cars as well?

Hi, yes I am interested in any Canadian-built RHD engines/cars shipped throughout the British Empire. I am most interested in any engines with a prefix containing an 'F' anywhere in the number, Model A or B.

I have received recent information from Ford Motor Company of Australia Pty. Ltd. that proves that the 'F' was added to the Canadian Model B engine number for RHD by 1934. The question now is how much earlier was it added, and with which prefixes? Additional data points including an 'F' would be great!

Thank you for your responses, and I will follow up with my comments after a few more responses hopefully.

This might also be a good time to mention that I have tried unsuccessfully for many years to obtain a set of original or copies of 1928-34 Model A and B Service Bulletins published by Ford Australia.

I have been in contact in the past with a number of the prominent researchers and club members in Australia who are in the know, but I have been unable to get a set. Anyone who could help connect me to a set of Australian Service Bulletins, or other primary Ford Australia documentation would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You

forever4 · 12-23-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by patnmand

My 1928 Phaeton (now in the UK) is a Canadian built Australian car and RHD. The engine number is CA69764.

Interestingly my Uncle's 1928 Open Cab pickup (also Canadian built but from Kenya) has a CAA prefix on the engine, but it doesn't fit your numbering (CAA56418). Any ideas on that?

patnmand,
Thanks for your comments on the CAA prefix. I realized that I made a mistake constructing the table (dyslexia?) and fixed it. It has been like that a number of years.

Your CAA engine is totally expected and no anomaly.

patnmand · 12-23-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by forever4

patnmand,
Thanks for your comments on the CAA prefix. I realized that I made a mistake constructing the table (dyslexia?) and fixed it. It has been like that a number of years.

Your CAA engine is totally expected and no anomaly.

Thanks - that all makes perfect sense now. It's a brilliant site and really useful.

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Tinbasher · 12-26-2016, 08:15 AM

Hi Guys Here's a copy of the Canadian Engine serial numbers.
Hope it helps.

John Poole

forever4 · 12-26-2016, 07:09 PM

Guys,
Thanks for all the info received here as well as through email including Dave and Bick!

It appears that the 'F' in the engine number prefix was added in early 1933 to Canadian production.

RHD · 12-25-2023, 10:33 PM

Yes, I can. Please email [email protected]

12-23-2016, 04:01 AM	#2
SAJ Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 515	Re: Canadian built engines in Australia and New Zealand Vince. I have 1930 standard roadster with engine CA53781, body number 7F93 and unknown chassis number. It has 28 style curved bumpers, oval speedo, Robertson head screws and 7 tooth steering. My wife has 31 Tudor ( registration papers say 1932) with engine number CA 63283, early style steering column support - not dash mounted- and non-indented firewall. Both are RHD of course Hope this helps EDIT. I see the Tudor engine on the reg. Papers is CAI 6087. So the engine must have been changed years ago. The roadster engine seems too early for the car too. I guess many have been changed like this. Probably not much help to you after all!! SAJ in NZ Last edited by SAJ; 12-23-2016 at 04:09 AM. Reason: Added a post script

12-23-2016, 05:15 AM	#3
patnmand Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 46	Re: Canadian built engines in Australia and New Zealand My 1928 Phaeton (now in the UK) is a Canadian built Australian car and RHD. The engine number is CA69764. Interestingly my Uncle's 1928 Open Cab pickup (also Canadian built but from Kenya) has a CAA prefix on the engine, but it doesn't fit your numbering (CAA56418). Any ideas on that? Last edited by patnmand; 12-23-2016 at 05:19 AM. Reason: Corrected engine numbers

12-23-2016, 05:22 AM	#4
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Canadian built engines in Australia and New Zealand I have a Canadian built 1930 CCPU that was LHD and lived its life in Canada as far as I can tell until only a few years ago. Engine number CA101545 Also have an Australian delivery '29 Phaeton, Canadian built engine CAQ7659 __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

12-23-2016, 05:46 AM	#5
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Canadian built engines in Australia and New Zealand Vince, Are you also interested in South African RHD cars as well? __________________ Regards Chris Cape Town 28 Model A RPU, 29 Chevy Phaeton, 67 E Type FHC, 67 250SL Pagoda, 83 911 SC

12-26-2016, 07:09 PM	#10
forever4 BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 116	Re: Canadian built engines in Australia and New Zealand Guys, Thanks for all the info received here as well as through email including Dave and Bick! It appears that the 'F' in the engine number prefix was added in early 1933 to Canadian production. __________________ Try Ford Garage Search

12-25-2023, 10:33 PM	#11
RHD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Zealand Posts: 670	Re: Canadian built engines in Australia and New Zealand Yes, I can. Please email [email protected] __________________ R.H.D. Author of Model 'A' Ford technical manuals. Supplier of good original RHD parts.