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THE1ANDONLY · 08-29-2023, 09:56 PM

Hey guys, I just picked up this chassis with this stamped on the block. Can you help me identify the year, possibly what it was in? Thanks in advance, Shaun

CWPASADENA · 08-29-2023, 10:01 PM

The numbers are not original factory stamps. It looks to me that the original numbers on the pad have been ground off and new smaller numbers stamped on. The numbers correspond with an engine that would have been made in September of 1930.

My opinion,

Chris W.

THE1ANDONLY · 08-29-2023, 10:40 PM

Yeah, I noticed they looked a little off. So that serial # is coming up as a 1930 model A? Looking to rebuild the engine I’d be looking up parts for 1930 “a” engine, yeah (assuming the serial # is correct)?

nkaminar · 08-30-2023, 07:23 AM

I agree that the numbers are not original. Smaller than the original and the star not at the end. It may be that the engine was installed in a late 1930 car that had that serial number. Look at the serial number on the chassis (port side near firewall) to see if the chassis matches the engine number.

Regarding parts for the engine, except for very early engines, they pretty much used the same parts. There are subtle differences in the block casting over the years that I cannot remember.

40 Deluxe · 08-30-2023, 09:20 AM

Back in the day there was a booming business in rebuilt Model A engines. Sears, Montgomery Ward, JC Whitney and other mail order places sold rebuilt Model A engines, as did Ford dealers and local parts stores. So a large percentage of A's lost their original engine decades ago!

Gary WA · 08-30-2023, 09:27 AM

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Been restamped. can see remnants by the 5 and 3

8EL · 08-30-2023, 11:47 AM

3915860

Production numbers according to Les Andrews:

3883889-4005973 puts this engine produced roughly the middle of September 1930

Would not care to comment on the stamping authenticity.....

WTSHNN · 08-30-2023, 12:14 PM

The engine that number originally appeared on was stamped September 9th 1930.

Engine parts are interchangeable between the years (with very few exceptions) so don't worry too much about that.

ModelA29 · 08-30-2023, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

The engine that number originally appeared on was stamped September 9th 1930.

Pluck's site has the evolution of the block castings. You can maybe match up the actual year of the block by the little details - http://www.plucks329s.org/40hb.htm

08-29-2023, 10:01 PM	#2
CWPASADENA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PASADENA, CA Posts: 1,885	Re: Help! Identify this engine The numbers are not original factory stamps. It looks to me that the original numbers on the pad have been ground off and new smaller numbers stamped on. The numbers correspond with an engine that would have been made in September of 1930. My opinion, Chris W.

08-29-2023, 10:40 PM	#3
THE1ANDONLY Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Norco, CA Posts: 45	Re: Help! Identify this engine Yeah, I noticed they looked a little off. So that serial # is coming up as a 1930 model A? Looking to rebuild the engine I’d be looking up parts for 1930 “a” engine, yeah (assuming the serial # is correct)?

08-30-2023, 07:23 AM	#4
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,900	Re: Help! Identify this engine I agree that the numbers are not original. Smaller than the original and the star not at the end. It may be that the engine was installed in a late 1930 car that had that serial number. Look at the serial number on the chassis (port side near firewall) to see if the chassis matches the engine number. Regarding parts for the engine, except for very early engines, they pretty much used the same parts. There are subtle differences in the block casting over the years that I cannot remember. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

08-30-2023, 09:20 AM	#5
40 Deluxe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: now Kuna, Idaho Posts: 3,779	Re: Help! Identify this engine Back in the day there was a booming business in rebuilt Model A engines. Sears, Montgomery Ward, JC Whitney and other mail order places sold rebuilt Model A engines, as did Ford dealers and local parts stores. So a large percentage of A's lost their original engine decades ago!

08-30-2023, 09:27 AM	#6
Gary WA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Clinton,WA/Whidbey Island Posts: 4,105	Re: Help! Identify this engine Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Been restamped. can see remnants by the 5 and 3 __________________ www.whidbeymodelaclub.com

08-30-2023, 11:47 AM	#7
8EL Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2023 Posts: 235	Re: Help! Identify this engine 3915860 Production numbers according to Les Andrews: 3883889-4005973 puts this engine produced roughly the middle of September 1930 Would not care to comment on the stamping authenticity.....

08-30-2023, 12:14 PM	#8
WTSHNN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,413	Re: Help! Identify this engine The engine that number originally appeared on was stamped September 9th 1930. Engine parts are interchangeable between the years (with very few exceptions) so don't worry too much about that. __________________ No one wants advice - only corroboration. -John Steinbeck