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GB SISSON · 05-01-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 39topless

Before you try to pull the hubs, be sure E-brake is off and you need to adjust the brake shoes all the way in in order to avoid having the lip of the drums catch on the shoes . Go here for more info on brakes. http://www.btc-bci.com/~billben/flathead.htm Good luck.

I have struggled with the lip on the drums for years. So many times the adjusters won't back off due to rust. I'm not the type to give up so I always get them off in the end. This is my first time doing brakes on a half ton truck so I have never needed a puller. For whatever warped reason I have owned only the tonners and big trucks with full floating rear axles (1934 and up), but I have spent a lifetime doing the brakes on them. Is there a keyway in the half ton's tapered axle shaft, or is it just the taper that keeps the hub to the axle shaft? If so that seems really odd.

V8COOPMAN · 05-01-2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON

......... or is it just the taper that keeps the hub to the axle shaft? If so that seems really odd.

The hub's taper "locks" itself to the axle's taper using the exact, same principle that "locks" a Morse-Tapered bit into a Morse chuck on your drill press. The key is not designed to transmit any torque. That's the reason for so much torque on that big axle nut.......GOTTA be tight! DD

Charlie Stephens · 05-01-2016, 02:01 PM

Be sure to price new axles when making your decision on which hub puller to use.

Charlie Stephens

GB SISSON · 05-01-2016, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

Be sure to price new axles when making your decision on which hub puller to use.

Charlie Stephens

When I finally got out to the shop I got sidetracked working on the woodie's doors and still haven't pulled off a drum. This tool looks like it is up to the task. The thread protector which is threaded onto the axle, then backed up 1/2 turn seems like it will do that part. I guess time will tell, but sounds like some folks even have good luck with the crappy ones. Something about the way everything fits together inspires confidence in me. I will give a full report after I give it a try after work someday this week.

Talkwrench · 05-01-2016, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

The hub's taper "locks" itself to the axle's taper using the exact, same principle that "locks" a Morse-Tapered bit into a Morse chuck on your drill press. The key is not designed to transmit any torque. That's the reason for so much torque on that big axle nut.......GOTTA be tight! DD

Yes.. To my horror I watched someone who I admire do up an axle nut with just a 15" shifter.. HE was working on a very nice 38 doing the rear brakes.. I had to step in and say at least get all the grease of the taper, you have to do it up tight etc etc.. Well anyway I gave up but did pull the owners mate aside and said my piece .. I really hope that the wheels are still on ...

34fordy · 05-01-2016, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Talkwrench

Yes.. To my horror I watched someone who I admire do up an axle nut with just a 15" shifter.. HE was working on a very nice 38 doing the rear brakes.. I had to step in and say at least get all the grease of the taper, you have to do it up tight etc etc.. Well anyway I gave up but did pull the owners mate aside and said my piece .. I really hope that the wheels are still on ...

Can you tell this old Yank what a "shifter" is?

Talkwrench · 05-01-2016, 09:28 PM

Shifting spanner ; )

cas3 · 05-01-2016, 09:30 PM

every old car i've ever owned that had tapered axles, they were loose when i bought it. crank em tight, and check again 100 miles later

Charlie Stephens · 05-01-2016, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Talkwrench

Shifting spanner ; )

Now that you post the picture I must admit I have heard that description used in the US, but it was just once or twice a very long time ago.

Charlie Stephens

mobileparts · 05-02-2016, 03:10 PM

There are still some "old school" tool vendors that AREN"T "Harbor Freight" that carry them .... I have a different model for my DESOTOS -- that has 3 jaws on it .......

Not every tool in the world is made in china!!!!!!!!!!!!

CarlG · 05-02-2016, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Talkwrench

Shifting spanner ; )

Redneck name = Cresent wrench

Mart · 05-02-2016, 04:43 PM

I heard one referred to as an "all sixteenths" wrench, which I thought was pretty good.

cmbrucew · 05-02-2016, 06:30 PM

Ford is the reason the tool mfg. companys included 32" size in the wrench sets.
This applies to wrench sets made before metric sizes were popular in the USA.
Bruce

GB SISSON · 05-02-2016, 11:31 PM

I have a very rare metric crescent wrench....

dwick01 · 05-03-2016, 04:49 AM

That is rare GB SISSON. However, I must say, I even have a more rare Combination Standard/Metric Shifting Spanner.........

05-01-2016, 02:01 PM	#23
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,057	Re: rear hub pullers Be sure to price new axles when making your decision on which hub puller to use. Charlie Stephens

05-01-2016, 09:30 PM	#28
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,600	Re: rear hub pullers every old car i've ever owned that had tapered axles, they were loose when i bought it. crank em tight, and check again 100 miles later

05-02-2016, 03:10 PM	#30
mobileparts Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: West Hempstead, New York Posts: 167	Re: rear hub pullers There are still some "old school" tool vendors that AREN"T "Harbor Freight" that carry them .... I have a different model for my DESOTOS -- that has 3 jaws on it ....... Not every tool in the world is made in china!!!!!!!!!!!!

05-02-2016, 04:43 PM	#32
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,784	Re: rear hub pullers I heard one referred to as an "all sixteenths" wrench, which I thought was pretty good.

05-02-2016, 06:30 PM	#33
cmbrucew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North of sandy ago, CA. Posts: 2,066	Re: rear hub pullers Ford is the reason the tool mfg. companys included 32" size in the wrench sets. This applies to wrench sets made before metric sizes were popular in the USA. Bruce __________________ Works good Lasts long time

05-02-2016, 11:31 PM	#34
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 5,082	Re: rear hub pullers I have a very rare metric crescent wrench.... __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1946 Tonner Pickup with 226 H six, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, now wearing 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

05-03-2016, 04:49 AM	#35
dwick01 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Wellington, Kansas Posts: 444	Re: rear hub pullers That is rare GB SISSON. However, I must say, I even have a more rare Combination Standard/Metric Shifting Spanner.........