02-21-2012, 10:48 AM | #81 |
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This morning I went out to the garage with the intention of flipping the Columbia over so I could finish painting it. I flipped it and had it resting on some bubble wrap. Started to paint and quickly ran out… And you guessed it… that was the last of the paint that I had. A quick trip up to the local auto parts store and the problem was solved. Now the Columbia is adorned in nice new paint.
Now I’ve got to get the backing plates, torque tub, etc. prepped and painted…
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It’s been a bit slow going the last few days as I haven’t had much time available to devote to the Zephyr I did however get one of the backing plates cleaned and painted…
I also was able to clean and paint a few related brake parts.
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Ok, here's a question for those in the know. I just received two NOS dog bones for the rear shocks on the Lincoln Zephyr. The NOS DB's measure 4" center to center which is what is listed in the LZ parts book however; the DB's I removed are 5" center to center.
There are no ID numbers on any of the DB's, so here's my question; what, if any difference will the shorter DB's make, and could it be that convertibles had the longer DB's to compensate for the weight difference? Thanks in advance for any help. Vic
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Think of it this way with the 4" link on the shock arm will have to come down. now you have more travel up or in reality the body has more travel down. Correct me if I am wrong you have a better chance of BOTTOMING OUT then going over a hill and having day lite under the rear wheel.( or maybe not after riding with you last time LOL LOL ) If the shock has no more movement to go up and the body still wants to come down !!! Well you connect the dots ::::::: SOMIN GONA BRAKE Long Story short My book also says 4" links. |
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Bill, I found out that the 4" is correct for the '39 LZ. The 5" that I took out was a replacement part. Vic
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Kube & Coopman, I was wondering about the castings myself because the rear that came out of the '39 Zephyr and the rear in my '39 Ford CS are both smooth, as is the banjo on the Columbia. This Columbia came out of a '39 Zephyr Coupe...
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I did some research and found out that Columbia cast the axle housing for the conversion. Obviously Columbia was not as critical as Ford with the castings.
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I went and looked again (memory isn't what it once was) and both housings on all my cars are smooth, even the Lincoln. |
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I went out and looked at all the housings in my cars (Lincoln and Fords) and found all of them, including the unrestored cars to be smooth. Might just be the photo but it looks like your Columbia housing is pretty decent. I was wondering about the Ford (Lincoln) axle housing. |
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I would agree with you, I thought that Columbia only cast the housing that contained the overdrive. I Googled Columbia Axle Co. and found a bunch of info, but could not find anything from the actual Columbia Axle Co. that confirmed that they did the casting. I talked with John Connelly of Columbia two speed Parts, Inc. and he said that Columbia cast the axle housings for the conversion. It's obvious that the Columbia castings are not as nice (smooth) at the FoMoCo axles castings. There is a brass tag on the Columbia that I have with the following info stamped into it. 40-100A-52 No: 8070 Columbia Axle Co.
Apparently the 40 is the year of production and (according to John Connelly) they most likely were installed in late '39 Zephyrs (like cars, they were produced early). If someone ordered a new Zephyr, with a Columbia in '39, the factory installed the unit. Only Lincoln did this, if someone wanted a Columbia in a Ford or Mercury, the dealer did the installation. I'm going to continue my search and see if I can locate some original documentation from Columbia.
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I was talking about the axle housings - not the center section.
I agree with John in regard to the approval of Columbia's in Fords vs. Lincoln. In the Ford (1940) it was not authorized as many think. |
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The center section (on the Columbia) is a Ford produced part, the axle housings, according to John, were produced by Columbia which would account for the difference in the finish (not as smooth as Ford built axle housings). However, the Columbia in your photo looks smooth as glass. Without actual documentation from Columbia (I’m still trying to find it), it will remain a mystery.
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Well, we didn't get anything done on the Zephyr this weekend, instead of working in the garage, we drive one of our non-Flatheads (the '63 Studebaker Avanti) down to Long boat Key for the weekend... We saw a beautiful ’55 Pontiac Convertible with a Continental Kit, a ’55 Chevy Two Door hard top and a ’40 Ford Coupe out on the road. I didn’t take a camera with me so, no photos. Vic
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When you say the center section, are you referring to the "banjo" or the housing for the Columbia gears? Also, the Zephyr (when ordered with a Columbia) had the unit installed at the factory so, could it be that (for the Zephyr) Columbia cast both sides and delivered it to Lincoln already assembled as a unit? That's just about the only thing that would explain the roughness of the castings...
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Yes they are, the center section "banjo" is smooth as is the complete stock rear axle that came out of the car. The axles on the Columbia are both "textured", not at all smooth.
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Pretty much LOOKS like the rust pits that I covered-up with spray bombs on my stuff forty-five years ago and called it "restored", before I knew the difference. DD
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