The Ford Barn

pgerhardt · 02-06-2015, 07:47 PM

Having finished the left rear fender from my 29 tudor, today I tore into the right fender. I noticed that the right fender was different from the left. On the left fender the flange that bolts to the car is a uniform 1.5 inches wide. On the right fender it is only about 1.25 inches with extra sheet metal added near the bolt hole (see first picture). I went on eBay and found a 1929 NOS fender for sale that had the same feature (see second picture)!

So what's the story? Did Ford manufacture left and right fenders with slightly different designs? Strange?

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 02-06-2015, 07:50 PM

First you need to understand that 'most' NOS fenders we see today were NOT manufactured by Ford!

pgerhardt · 02-06-2015, 08:45 PM

While not answering the question you have given me an idea. I am guessing that one explanation is that both the eBay "NOS" fender and my right fender are actually a NORS replacements which would explain its difference?

Mike V. Florida · 02-06-2015, 11:41 PM

In a left handed manner he made you answer your own question.

burner31 · 02-07-2015, 01:24 AM

NOS...New Old Stock

NORS...?

Forgive me...I'm new to A's

Mike V. Florida · 02-07-2015, 01:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burner31

NOS...New Old Stock

NORS...?

Forgive me...I'm new to A's

New old reproduction stock. _ The crap that did not sell the first time only a little older.

700rpm · 02-07-2015, 02:23 AM

I have thought for a long time that at least the 1930 fronts were different left and right. Take a look at some cars from the front and see if you don't think that front curve is different.

Mike V. Florida · 02-07-2015, 02:32 AM

We are looking at cars we have not owned since new. As such we do not know what has been changed.

pgerhardt · 02-07-2015, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

New old reproduction stock. _ The crap that did not sell the first time only a little older.

Actually New Old Replacement Stock. Contemporary parts that were produced for the millions of model A Fords needing repairs during its production, but not by Ford.

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 02-07-2015, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgerhardt

Actually New Old Replacement Stock. Contemporary parts that were produced for the millions of model A Fords needing repairs during its production, but not by Ford.

I have wondered where/when the acronyms of NOS and NORS actually originated. Henry's name for NORS back in the day was Gyp parts. Kinda like the modern term of Repro ....which I can remember called 'repo' back in the '60s & '70s.

Tinbasher · 02-07-2015, 11:30 AM

Which Today is call Aftermarket Parts. Or what I call "Almost Fit Parts.

John Poole

The Old Tinbasher

JohnLaVoy · 02-08-2015, 11:01 AM

I have seen fenders with the Ford part number painted on with a production date of 1936. As I understand Ford sent the tooling to South America and continued to have parts manufactured there for several years after production of the Model A ended. This could be where your fender came from.

Roger V · 02-08-2015, 11:47 AM

There is a high-end restorer that showed me a NOS Ford made front fender which was misformed. It looked like it slipped in one of the dies. He reworked it to how it should have been. I have heard that rejects were not scrapped but slated for dealer service. I suppose the owner was happy to get his wrecked car back usable though it wasn't quite the same as when he bought it.

02-06-2015, 07:50 PM	#2
BRENT in 10-uh-C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern Tennessee Posts: 11,552	Re: 29 right fender different from left? First you need to understand that 'most' NOS fenders we see today were NOT manufactured by Ford! __________________ . BRENT in 10-uh-C . www.model-a-ford.com ...(...Finally Updated!! ) .

02-06-2015, 08:45 PM	#3
pgerhardt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Danbury Ct Posts: 1,254	Re: 29 right fender different from left? While not answering the question you have given me an idea. I am guessing that one explanation is that both the eBay "NOS" fender and my right fender are actually a NORS replacements which would explain its difference?

02-06-2015, 11:41 PM	#4
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: 29 right fender different from left? In a left handed manner he made you answer your own question. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

02-07-2015, 01:24 AM	#5
burner31 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Shawnee, Ok Posts: 3,471	Re: 29 right fender different from left? NOS...New Old Stock NORS...? Forgive me...I'm new to A's __________________ Keith Shawnee OK '31 SW 160-B

02-07-2015, 02:23 AM	#7
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,925	Re: 29 right fender different from left? I have thought for a long time that at least the 1930 fronts were different left and right. Take a look at some cars from the front and see if you don't think that front curve is different. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

02-07-2015, 02:32 AM	#8
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: 29 right fender different from left? We are looking at cars we have not owned since new. As such we do not know what has been changed. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

02-07-2015, 11:30 AM	#11
Tinbasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Innisfil, Ontario Canada Posts: 1,175	Re: 29 right fender different from left? Which Today is call Aftermarket Parts. Or what I call "Almost Fit Parts. John Poole The Old Tinbasher

02-08-2015, 11:01 AM	#12
JohnLaVoy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Rocklin, CA Posts: 779	Re: 29 right fender different from left? I have seen fenders with the Ford part number painted on with a production date of 1936. As I understand Ford sent the tooling to South America and continued to have parts manufactured there for several years after production of the Model A ended. This could be where your fender came from.

02-08-2015, 11:47 AM	#13
Roger V Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,593	Re: 29 right fender different from left? There is a high-end restorer that showed me a NOS Ford made front fender which was misformed. It looked like it slipped in one of the dies. He reworked it to how it should have been. I have heard that rejects were not scrapped but slated for dealer service. I suppose the owner was happy to get his wrecked car back usable though it wasn't quite the same as when he bought it.