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Steve Plucker · 05-20-2016, 08:31 AM

In the book The Ford Model A--As Henry Built It, it states that the Victoria and 400-A were built by both Briggs and Murray. However have heard that it was just Briggs AND have heard that it was just Murray.

So...the $64,000.00 question Just who was it?

Thanks.

Pluck

Fordors · 05-20-2016, 09:25 AM

I don't know if Coachbuilt.com is a definitive source but they make no mention of a Briggs built 400A. Looks as though Murray was the sole builder.

Vern · 05-20-2016, 05:32 PM

The Victoria Association has yet to find a body that has been proven to be built by Briggs. There are Victorias with Briggs body tags, but they have been reproduction tags, not originals.
It seems to be a commonly accepted "truth" that both Murray & Briggs built Victoria bodies for Ford,or that one provided the Leatherback style while the other provided the Steelback version. No records remain to back up this belief, yet they persist.

Oldbluoval · 05-20-2016, 05:49 PM

I've dealt with about 10-12 a400.....all Murray

ajanke · 05-20-2016, 06:14 PM

My 400-A tag (original) is Murray. I have never seen a 400-A with anything but Murray. So.... I believe the 400-As were all made by Murray.

Steve Plucker · 05-20-2016, 06:50 PM

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Thank you to all...Murray it is.

Pluck

Joop · 05-20-2016, 08:21 PM

I second the motion!

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05-20-2016, 08:31 AM	#1
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Victoria and 400-A body builders... In the book The Ford Model A--As Henry Built It, it states that the Victoria and 400-A were built by both Briggs and Murray. However have heard that it was just Briggs AND have heard that it was just Murray. So...the $64,000.00 question Just who was it? Thanks. Pluck

05-20-2016, 09:25 AM	#2
Fordors Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orland Park,IL Posts: 1,402	Re: Victoria and 400-A body builders... I don't know if Coachbuilt.com is a definitive source but they make no mention of a Briggs built 400A. Looks as though Murray was the sole builder. __________________ My school colors are black and blue, I attended the School of Hard Knocks where I received a Masters Degree in Chronic Mopery. Last edited by Fordors; 05-20-2016 at 09:37 PM.

05-20-2016, 05:32 PM	#3
Vern Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 575	Re: Victoria and 400-A body builders... The Victoria Association has yet to find a body that has been proven to be built by Briggs. There are Victorias with Briggs body tags, but they have been reproduction tags, not originals. It seems to be a commonly accepted "truth" that both Murray & Briggs built Victoria bodies for Ford,or that one provided the Leatherback style while the other provided the Steelback version. No records remain to back up this belief, yet they persist.

05-20-2016, 05:49 PM	#4
Oldbluoval Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Signal Mtn, TN (SE TN) Posts: 2,379	Re: Victoria and 400-A body builders... I've dealt with about 10-12 a400.....all Murray

05-20-2016, 06:14 PM	#5
ajanke Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 14	Re: Victoria and 400-A body builders... My 400-A tag (original) is Murray. I have never seen a 400-A with anything but Murray. So.... I believe the 400-As were all made by Murray.

05-20-2016, 06:50 PM	#6
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Victoria and 400-A body builders... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thank you to all...Murray it is. Pluck

05-20-2016, 08:21 PM	#7
Joop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 2,954	Re: Victoria and 400-A body builders... I second the motion! ..