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Lawrie 01-20-2023 12:09 AM

Car id
 

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Can anyone nix the car in this old family photo, some of my relatives from way back

restoman 01-20-2023 12:21 AM

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From the skirts it looks like a Lincoln Zephyr.

mercman from oz 01-20-2023 12:46 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1674193475

Mystery car is a 1938 Ford Deluxe Fordor Sedan

A bones 01-20-2023 12:49 AM

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I'm not able to say, but I will point out what I see. Rear door is suicide, windshield is 2 piece, hood ornament is large, the side of the hood may be ventilated, side trim strip is fluted and thick, and yes the skirt has a positive securement

ford38v8 01-20-2023 01:38 AM

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Mercman got it right. No doubt about it. Why is he so damn quick with his answers?

mercman from oz 01-20-2023 01:53 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1674197533

1938 Ford Deluxe Sedan - Photo taken at a similar angle.

V8COOPMAN 01-20-2023 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2197641)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1674197533

1938 Ford Deluxe Sedan - Photo taken at a similar angle.

Agreed! '38 DeLuxe. Lincolns have a "teardrop" fender skirt.

Coop


https://live.staticflickr.com/8151/7...6a9aafe1_b.jpg

mercman from oz 01-20-2023 05:32 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1674210490

1939 Lincoln Zephyr Sedan. Notice that the Rain Gutter over the Doors on the Lincoln Zephyrs does not extend over the rear Side Window like it does on the Ford. The 1938 and 1939 Lincoln Zephyrs share the same Bodies.

Terry,OH 01-20-2023 07:22 AM

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The skirts on the mystery car do appear like Ford skirts, that used a bright hex head bolt on the crest of the skirt to operate a locking mechanism.

51504bat 01-20-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 2197637)
Mercman got it right. No doubt about it. Why is he so damn quick with his answers?


Being from Australia he's a day ahead of us guys this side of the date line.:cool:

Lawrie 01-20-2023 01:24 PM

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Thanks,the pic is from my father in-law album., he is deceased,he was at Quardal canal in ww2 in the N Z air force
Thank you Lawrie

Craig CT 01-20-2023 02:09 PM

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Hi Lawrie; The side trim on the first photo looks wider with less arch on the rear end than the other photos, Craig.

ford38v8 01-20-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig CT (Post 2197773)
Hi Lawrie; The side trim on the first photo looks wider with less arch on the rear end than the other photos, Craig.


Yes, it does, so much so that at first I thought it might be a Sloper, but those were Tudors. I believe it is merely a photographic distortion, as the car is definitely a 1938 Ford Fordor Deluxe.
Also, I don't think NZ would have had any Slopers from Austrailia.

V8COOPMAN 01-20-2023 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 2197776)
Yes, it does, so much so that at first I thought it might be a Sloper, but those were Tudors. I believe it is merely a photographic distortion, as the car is definitely a 1938 Ford Fordor Deluxe.
Also, I don't think NZ would have had any Slopers from Austrailia.


I immediately thought Zephyr, but the shape of that fender skirt ended that. Then I thought 'SLOPER' going by first, distorted glimpse of the curve in that rain gutter. Gotta be a '38 Ford C'dan.

Coop

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Craig CT 01-20-2023 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 2197776)
Yes, it does, so much so that at first I thought it might be a Sloper, but those were Tudors. I believe it is merely a photographic distortion, as the car is definitely a 1938 Ford Fordor Deluxe.
Also, I don't think NZ would have had any Slopers from Austrailia.

Hi Alan; One thing I wondered, if the trim is different, is would it indicate where the car was made and or if it was made at the beginning or end of it's production year, Craig.

ford38v8 01-20-2023 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig CT (Post 2197875)
Hi Alan; One thing I wondered, if the trim is different, is would it indicate where the car was made and or if it was made at the beginning or end of it's production year, Craig.

Craig, that works for an I.D. Sometimes, but I don’t think so in this case. Photographic distortion, as can also be seen on the side view of the comparison fordor, with the dazzle of reflection from the side trim.
NZ imported their Fords from Canada in a semi-assembled state. Some dissimilarities between U.S. Fords and Canadian Fords existed, but I haven’t heard of differences in side trim for 1938.

frnkeore 01-21-2023 03:52 AM

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I'm surprised that no one noticed that a Zephyr doesn't have a running board to sit on :)

STEVE O 01-21-2023 10:06 AM

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I have to ask, The (similar one that mercman posted) has right side gas filler but appears to be lhd? Just curious. Thanks Steve

Graeme / New Zealand 01-21-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 2197914)
Craig, that works for an I.D. Sometimes, but I don’t think so in this case. Photographic distortion, as can also be seen on the side view of the comparison fordor, with the dazzle of reflection from the side trim.
NZ imported their Fords from Canada in a semi-assembled state. Some dissimilarities between U.S. Fords and Canadian Fords existed, but I haven’t heard of differences in side trim for 1938.

Absolutely right. Would be NZ assembled at the old FOMOCO at Seaview, Lower Hutt. The plant which shut its doors here around 86 is only about 3km away from me as the crow flies. Our V8's from 36 on came here from the Ford Commonwealth plant, Ontario in CKD form.

GB

uncle max 01-22-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 51504bat (Post 2197686)
Being from Australia he's a day ahead of us guys this side of the date line.:cool:

We need to email and find out who won the Super Bowl before placing our bets!


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