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'32FordNut 09-16-2022 12:44 AM

Radiator, Shell & Hood Align on My '32
 

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Hello, I took my radiator, hood and grille shell off to replace my 2 water pumps on my EAB motor on my 32, 3-W. I took off the hood supports but left the one nut tight so it would go back on in the position it came off. However, I realized that the bottom of the radiator adjusts fore and aft since the hole is oblong on the frame. How do I make sure the distance is correct before I try to wrestle putting the hood on and have an alignment issue??? Do I get the measurement on the bottom of the hood and then make sure it's about 1/4 - 1/2 inch longer from the firewall to the grille shell??? Thanks for the help. Jeff

DavidG 09-16-2022 04:56 AM

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The holes in the front cross member where the radiator is attached were not oblong originally. Somewhere along the way they either were worn into oblongs (not likely) or someone enlarged them to gain more adjustment for the radiator, etc.


In any event, what you have concluded regarding measuring the hood side panels and providing adequate space for each of them is what is required. Plus !/2" of space is likely excessive with plus 1/4" being a better choice.

mercman from oz 09-16-2022 05:29 AM

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alchemy 09-16-2022 06:44 AM

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I see you have the most important tool for aligning Ford sheetmetal sitting right there on your air cleaner.

'32FordNut 09-16-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 2166641)
The holes in the front cross member where the radiator is attached were not oblong originally. Somewhere along the way they either were worn into oblongs (not likely) or someone enlarged them to gain more adjustment for the radiator, etc.


In any event, what you have concluded regarding measuring the hood side panels and providing adequate space for each of them is what is required. Plus !/2" of space is likely excessive with plus 1/4" being a better choice.

Thank you DavidG. I guess I was on the right track and I'll add a 1/4" to the total rather than the 1/2". That really helps. I'm anxious to finish up so I'll let you know how it goes later today. Thanks for the advice Sir!

'32FordNut 09-16-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alchemy (Post 2166650)
I see you have the most important tool for aligning Ford sheetmetal sitting right there on your air cleaner.

Yes, I used the radiator hammer and a piece of towel to help align the bottom radiator and pushing the hose in. I'm working by myself and I'm glad they make a radiator hammer, they come in real handy!! LOL

'32FordNut 09-17-2022 11:13 AM

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WOW, got her done. 3 guys and 3 hours. I finally have the hood somewhat aligned. The only problem is the cowl lace isn't thick enough and the hood droops lower than the cowl. When I fold a rag and stick it in there, it comes up really nice. I'll try to get new lace and if that doesn't work, I'll shimmy the lace so it raises to the correct height. When someone says they have 8-10 hours into aligning the hood, believe them. It's a nightmare taking that hood and shell off 15 times. Thanks for all the help and I'll send a pic later today.

DavidG 09-17-2022 11:51 AM

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Please do not start pulling your hair out if over time the lacing is further compressed and the hood moves further down. Between gravity and the springs in the hood latches, the soft white core lacing available these days will compress more quickly and to a much greater extent than the original hard dark brown core lacing (no longer available due its environmentally-unfriendly manufacturing process).

'32FordNut 09-17-2022 01:28 PM

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Thanks DavidG, maybe I won't even waste my money then. The lacing is only 10 years old but has less than 50 miles on it since restoration and has been in my shop the entire time since my uncle did the frame off. It still looks brans spanking new. Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it. Here's a picture of it I just took. Maybe it doesn't look as bad as I think since I'm so anal about it.

tubman 09-17-2022 01:55 PM

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Wrap it up! I'll take it!

Looks great to me.

1942deluxe 09-17-2022 01:59 PM

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Looks nice!

Krylon32 09-17-2022 03:13 PM

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I've shimmed the hood lacing with some small vacuum hose placed in the channel under the lacing. Kind of a crude fix but the black hose on my black car doesn't really show if your not looking.

5851a 09-17-2022 04:11 PM

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Looks very nice in the pic. Watch some of the old videos of assembly, the guys in the videos were the best guys they had for the shoot. Your fit looks to be better than I would expect on a low-priced car at the time.

BoxCar Tom 09-20-2022 05:50 PM

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When we built my roadster the hood top on the drivers side was down better than a half inch. Had the correct hard lacing. The back hood hook was loose at the catch. Everything painted. We tried a couple of different things, nothing worked. Finally, nothing to lose, got drastic. Cut two 4x4 wood uprights placed them on the frame just in front of the firewall legs. Cut another 4x4 wood crossbeam, put that on top of the uprights. Then used an eight foot 4x4 as a lever. Placed the lever on top of the crossbeam and the tip of the lever under the edge of the firewall, where the lacing fits in a grove. After just a few light pulls we were able to lift (adjust) the edge of the firewall to achieve correct hood alignment. Didn't even break the paint.

Lawson Cox 09-20-2022 06:42 PM

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Whatever works I always say. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Good looking 32.

'32FordNut 09-20-2022 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxCar Tom (Post 2167950)
When we built my roadster the hood top on the drivers side was down better than a half inch. Had the correct hard lacing. The back hood hook was loose at the catch. Everything painted. We tried a couple of different things, nothing worked. Finally, nothing to lose, got drastic. Cut two 4x4 wood uprights placed them on the frame just in front of the firewall legs. Cut another 4x4 wood crossbeam, put that on top of the uprights. Then used an eight foot 4x4 as a lever. Placed the lever on top of the crossbeam and the tip of the lever under the edge of the firewall, where the lacing fits in a grove. After just a few light pulls we were able to lift (adjust) the edge of the firewall to achieve correct hood alignment. Didn't even break the paint.

Thanks Tom! I like Krylon32's idea (#12) about some small tubing under the lacing. I think I'm going to try that first since it's easier for me with less experience than you guys out here have. Love your '32. I have one just like it, black with green striping and wheels, original V8 and vin is a 18- number.

'32FordNut 09-20-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawson Cox (Post 2167970)
Whatever works I always say. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Good looking 32.

Yes there is, but I have all these skins with my attempts <LOL>!! Love your truck. I'm trying to get a 59AB engine in my '33 truck and get the banger out of it. I love trucks and yours looks awesome, nice setup. V8??

'32FordNut 09-20-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tubman (Post 2167058)
Wrap it up! I'll take it!

Looks great to me.

LOL, thank you Sir!!

petehoovie 09-20-2022 07:06 PM

Re: Radiator, Shell & Hood Align on My '32
 

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Originally Posted by BoxCar Tom (Post 2167950)
When we built my roadster the hood top on the drivers side was down better than a half inch. Had the correct hard lacing. The back hood hook was loose at the catch. Everything painted. We tried a couple of different things, nothing worked. Finally, nothing to lose, got drastic. Cut two 4x4 wood uprights placed them on the frame just in front of the firewall legs. Cut another 4x4 wood crossbeam, put that on top of the uprights. Then used an eight foot 4x4 as a lever. Placed the lever on top of the crossbeam and the tip of the lever under the edge of the firewall, where the lacing fits in a grove. After just a few light pulls we were able to lift (adjust) the edge of the firewall to achieve correct hood alignment. Didn't even break the paint.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1663712666

petehoovie 09-20-2022 07:06 PM

Re: Radiator, Shell & Hood Align on My '32
 

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Originally Posted by '32FordNut (Post 2167054)
Thanks DavidG, maybe I won't even waste my money then. The lacing is only 10 years old but has less than 50 miles on it since restoration and has been in my shop the entire time since my uncle did the frame off. It still looks brans spanking new. Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it. Here's a picture of it I just took. Maybe it doesn't look as bad as I think since I'm so anal about it.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1663439284


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