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Fech 05-01-2024 07:08 AM

1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

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Hi all,

Please clarify the following:

1. I started having issues (spills) with the existing oil filter. Please see the attached pictures. It looks like it is too low. I was told it is possible to reuse the old filter. Is that correct?

2. I purchased a new filter, 7HA-6731-A, but it is bigger than the existing filter. Are there any problems using it? The space between the new filter and canister is smaller.

3. There is a rubber washer over a small spring at the bottom of the canister. It is broken. Could I use krazy glue or omit the washer? I can't find a new one. Sorry for my ignorance, but I am restoring my Father's pickup.

pistonbroke 05-01-2024 08:13 AM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

As long as the filter seals around the tube and has some clearance on the outer wall of the canister it should be fine . there are slight differences between brands. As for the ruber washer, I've never heard of one in that position. As long as there is a spring with a washer on it then the filter then the washer spring combo on the lid your good to go. Tim

Fritz 05-01-2024 09:22 AM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

The leak from the top is probably from the rubber gasket that came with the filter. I found the Wix 51006 has the right size gasket.

Fech 05-01-2024 07:49 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

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Thank you all for the quick response!

The broken washer appears to be a "plastic" solid material, not rubber.

I can't find a spare piece. I hope if I glue it will not create problems in the future.
Is that bottom spring assy needed?

Also, is it ok if I sent to chrome the canister? I am not sure if the threads will be damaged or the internal canister chrome will react with the oil.

alanwoodieman 05-01-2024 09:12 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

tap out holes after chroming if you must

ford38v8 05-01-2024 11:03 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

If you’re hellbent on tricking it out, you’re better off buying a new chrome filter, or better yet, a beehive filter.

Ggmac 05-02-2024 04:47 AM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

I agreed with ford 38 , buy a new or used bee hive filter . Personally I’d leave it the way dad had it .

Terry,OH 05-02-2024 06:38 AM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

Your 39 PU did not come from the factory with that oil filter. You can delete the entire assembly if desired.

Fech 05-04-2024 01:47 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

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Thank you all for the responses!

I have another issue; the bottom of the canister elbow fitting has damaged threads. Is it possible to fix it? I found a "similar" elbow, but it doesn't have a small hole at one end.

The canister looks original. I didn't know that the1939 pickup didn't need a filter. So, how to connect the oil hoses correctly when removing the canister?

petehoovie 05-04-2024 03:27 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

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Originally Posted by Fech (Post 2309005)
Thank you all for the responses!

I have another issue; the bottom of the canister elbow fitting has damaged threads. Is it possible to fix it? I found a "similar" elbow, but it doesn't have a small hole at one end.

The canister looks original. I didn't know that the1939 pickup didn't need a filter. So, how to connect the oil hoses correctly when removing the canister?

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Kube 05-04-2024 04:13 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

I'm with Terry... remove the filter. The engine compartment will have a neater / cleaner appearance.

A filter was optional on this truck back in the day. However, the original filter appeared nothing like the one you have there.

ford38v8 05-04-2024 07:17 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

Fetch, as Kube points out, your filter is not original, so no need to salvage the damaged elbow. You can use the similar elbow as is if it is the return fitting, but if the inlet fitting, it must be restricted to 1/16”.
Regarding the need for a filter, you’ll have no better argument than all internal combustion engines now use a filter. Modern engine oil keeps impurities in suspension, to be removed by the filter. The old non-detergent oil settled out impurities into sludge overnight. I believe that Kube advises against filters on your vintage due to the originals not being available. I’m fairly sure that if he had an original to install, he’d be proud to do so, but for the fact that the entire filter was replaceable rather than being a canister with internal replaceable filter.

tubman 05-04-2024 09:31 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

After 60 years of driving these cars and just a kittle bit of research, I too, have become a big fan of he original "bypass" filters

Tinker 05-04-2024 09:57 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

Ya it makes sense. I respect the idea of using a early filter. But it's really not practical or really period correct. If you want period correct don't run one and change your oil. Worked for many decades and respect those that use it. If you want one for a 39... kits for spin off filters are available. Suppose it's what ya want.

Tinker 05-04-2024 10:01 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

There was a ton of different air cleaners from different years. You running a traditional oil one? I am. Good question.

Terry,OH 05-05-2024 07:09 AM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

The fitting shown in your photo should not have such a small hole, the hole was damaged during install or repair work.

Fords first oil filter was offered as an accessory in 1936. It didn't look anything like the canister filter with replacement filter element, it carried over until early 1940. In 1940 Ford offered the canister type filter it also was an accessory.

Fech 05-06-2024 09:52 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

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Thank you gentlemen!

I am learning from your comments.

I solved the previous issues. My father wants to keep the existing canister, but after testing, a new leak appeared on the cap bolt. Could the blame be because we sent to chrome the cap and the bolt? What is the best way to seal the top bolt? Or for some reason, the pressure inside the canister is too high which overfill the oil?

ford38v8 05-06-2024 10:20 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

A simple hard fiber washer is sufficient to seal the top bolt. The filters come with two different diameter rubber washers due to different canister manufacturers, be sure to use the correct one for your application. As for pressure within the canister, there should be close to zero pressure if the restrictor is on the inlet side, no restriction at all on the outlet side.

petehoovie 05-07-2024 01:02 AM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

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Originally Posted by Fech (Post 2309512)
Thank you gentlemen!

I am learning from your comments.

I solved the previous issues. My father wants to keep the existing canister, but after testing, a new leak appeared on the cap bolt. Could the blame be because we sent to chrome the cap and the bolt? What is the best way to seal the top bolt? Or for some reason, the pressure inside the canister is too high which overfill the oil?

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1715050293

Fech 05-08-2024 01:02 PM

Re: 1939 pickup engine oil filter
 

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Thank you again!
Hope that is the last question. At what level should the top of the filter be from the canister top edge?


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