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james.heider 10-17-2011 03:30 PM

12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

I have several coils that are either 12 volt or 6 volt. They are not marked and I was wondering how you can tell the difference?
There must be an ohms reading that would give some indication.
Any help would be appreciated. I don't wanrt ot just hook them up to a 12 volt battery and burn them out if they are 6 volt.

Dave in Boise 10-17-2011 03:57 PM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

You won't burn out the coils, but here is an easy way to tell..

Hook 12v power to 1 side of the coil, and then check the voltage on the other side.. H

(hook to + and check output on - for instance, the polarity for the test is not important and won't hurt either way)


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12v through a 12v coil will still show 12v when it comes out the other post of the coil, however a 6v coil will drop the voltage to 6v.. I have used old 6v coils as voltage reducers before for intermittent items in a 12 v system, like a horn or other item

- Dave in Boise

james.heider 10-17-2011 06:01 PM

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Thank You Dave.

Tom Wesenberg 10-18-2011 12:28 AM

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You need to connect an amp meter in series with the coil and 6 volt battery. A 6 volt coil will draw 4 amps.

Jim/GA 10-18-2011 04:15 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

If you have an accurate ohm meter, reading across the posts of a 12 volt coil should be about 3 ohms. A 6 volt coil is about half of that. It is not an exact number, but close enough that you can tell 6 from 12 volt.

Or, doing what Tom says, a 12 volt coil will flow about 2 amps if connected to 6 volts. Instead of an accurate ohm meter, you need an accurate ammeter (that can tell the difference between 4 amps vs. 2 amps).

ldj1002 10-18-2011 08:16 AM

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There will be a difference in test results in a 12v coil that is to be used with a resister than one that doesn't need a resister. Also a 12v coil that doesn't need a external resister will test very close to a 6v coil. Would that 12v coil be ok on on a 6v car?

MrTube 10-18-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 290973)
You need to connect an amp meter in series with the coil and 6 volt battery. A 6 volt coil will draw 4 amps.

I would speculate this is the only valid test I've seen so far. Testing a coil that has a resistor in series with it without one end connected should always show whatever the input voltage is as there will be no drop across the resistor or coil.

That and Tom usually knows his stuff :D

RonC 10-18-2011 09:16 AM

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12 volt coils are actually 6 volt coils with a resister connected in series within the primary circuit usually internal to the coil. That fact allows you to check the ohms across the primary terminals to see what the resistance is of the coil. As mentioned above a 6 volt coil should have less than 2 ohms and a 12 volt coil will have more closer to 2.5 to 3 ohms of resistance

MrTube 10-18-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RonC (Post 291062)
12 volt coils are actually 6 volt coils with a resister connected in series within the primary circuit usually internal to the coil. That fact allows you to check the ohms across the primary terminals to see what the resistance is of the coil. As mentioned above a 6 volt coil should have less than 2 ohms and a 12 volt coil will have more closer to 2.5 to 3 ohms of resistance

I agree however, how many people here own an ohm meter which is known to be accurate within 1 ohm? Sure a cheap analog meter will show a difference between a 6v coil and a 12v one, but what if someone has no reference?

james.heider 10-18-2011 09:58 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

You need to connect an amp meter in series with the coil and 6 volt battery. A 6 volt coil will draw 4 amps.


How many amps does a 12 volt coil draw using a 12 volt battery?

RonC 10-18-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTube (Post 291070)
I agree however, how many people here own an ohm meter which is known to be accurate within 1 ohm? Sure a cheap analog meter will show a difference between a 6v coil and a 12v one, but what if someone has no reference?

That would be a problem. I assume we are talking about old coils laying around of questionable conditon and you don't want to buy a decent ohm meter just to see if you have 6 or 12 volt coils? In that case I would recommend tossing the coils in the trash and buying a new one 6 volt coil at autozone for only $16.00.

RonC 10-18-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by james.heider (Post 291078)
You need to connect an amp meter in series with the coil and 6 volt battery. A 6 volt coil will draw 4 amps.


How many amps does a 12 volt coil draw using a 12 volt battery?


The amps would be the same. 4 amps

Tom Wesenberg 10-19-2011 12:42 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

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Originally Posted by ldj1002 (Post 291039)
There will be a difference in test results in a 12v coil that is to be used with a resister than one that doesn't need a resister. Also a 12v coil that doesn't need a external resister will test very close to a 6v coil. Would that 12v coil be ok on on a 6v car?

That coil should give you enough spark to run the car, but it may be a bit weaker since you mentioned that it has an internal resistor. A better choice would be a 12 volt coil that needs an external resistor. Then when it's run on 6 volts you'll get a hotter spark than the 12 volt coil with the internal resistor.

I find 6 volt coils at most swap meets and don't recall buying a bad one yet. That's because so many coils are needlessly replaced.

ldj1002 10-29-2011 08:47 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 291491)
That coil should give you enough spark to run the car, but it may be a bit weaker since you mentioned that it has an internal resistor. A better choice would be a 12 volt coil that needs an external resistor. Then when it's run on 6 volts you'll get a hotter spark than the 12 volt coil with the internal resistor.

I find 6 volt coils at most swap meets and don't recall buying a bad one yet. That's because so many coils are needlessly replaced.


OK, I didn't make myself clear. If I have a coil and all it says is 12v or nothing, How can I check it to determine if I use it on a 12v as is or put a resistor in line?

Jim/GA 10-29-2011 09:11 AM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

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Originally Posted by ldj1002 (Post 297187)
OK, I didn't make myself clear. If I have a coil and all it says is 12v or nothing, How can I check it to determine if I use it on a 12v as is or put a resistor in line?

Read across the primary posts with an ohm meter. If it reads about 3 ohms, you can use it on a 12 volt car without an external resistor. If it reads about 1.5 ohms, you need an external resistor.

ldj1002 10-29-2011 10:52 AM

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Thanks very much

lazlobassett 10-29-2011 04:50 PM

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Is the mallory available for 6 volt? I'm about to put a B motor w OHV & t-5 in my '31 roadster. It's hard to sleep nights !

lazlobassett 10-30-2011 08:15 AM

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Oops! Wrong thread.

Jim/GA 10-30-2011 10:35 AM

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you can delete any of your posts. click on the EDIT button and then DELETE.

Ice man 10-31-2011 09:49 PM

Re: 12 volt or 6 volt coil how to tell difference
 

NO such thing as a 6 volt or 12 volt coil. You need to match the impedience of what your working with. Iceman


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